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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2024 18:04:30 GMT
do you not understand what I meant when I said 22% of the electorate? No not really.Nothing new there lefty old bean...
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 18:06:31 GMT
Nothing new there lefty old bean... Oh right
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 18:07:47 GMT
do you not understand what I meant when I said 22% of the electorate? No not really. you are on a political debating forum , and you don't know what the word electorate means ?? You have got to be winding me up lefty.
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 18:50:23 GMT
you are on a political debating forum , and you don't know what the word electorate means ?? You have got to be winding me up lefty.ย Yes I know what it means it mean them that vote . But what I don't get Is what you mean by the 22% But whatever it would mean that labour Has a single party get the biggest number of votes from the Electorate.
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Post by thomas on Jan 14, 2024 19:03:01 GMT
you are on a political debating forum , and you don't know what the word electorate means ?? You have got to be winding me up lefty. Yes I know what it means it mean them that vote . But what I don't get Is what you mean by the 22% But whatever it would mean that labour Has a single party get the biggest number of votes from the Electorate. the 22 % figure is the percentage of the electorate saying they are certain to vote labour. Turnout won't be 100 % though , as we know , with polls predicting around a 50 % turnout , this then increases labours polling to around 41% I believe in the last polls. So my point is , I think the polls aren't picking up the shy tory and snp vote , and if they turn out on the day , labours 41% could vanish into thin air. I repeat again , at this point in the run up to Blairs landslide , Blair was polling a much higher percentage of the electorate . We will se though on the day what happens , but im not convinced the public are enamoured of keir starmer and his new labour global centrist party.
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Post by see2 on Jan 14, 2024 20:58:44 GMT
Because. 1. Wales is not England. 2. England did very well under New Labour until the international financial meltdown. 3. Because of the lying and insinuated lies largely by the Conservative propaganda merchants, the UK has been denied the direction New Labour were taking the country in. i.e. By using the existing system for the "benefit of the many, not the few". Wales is the blueprint for a Labour government, and the Welsh have never been as disgruntled.
20 mph zones popping up everywhere.
Building on greenbelt land, trying to turn Wales in to a concrete jungle.
Closing tourist hotels to house illegal migrants.
Mark Drakeford is resigning because the people of Wales are sick to death of Labour and their policies.
A taste of things to come for England.
ha ha ha, if you only had a minute part of your thinking that wasn't poisoned by your political bias, you might post something sensible, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 14, 2024 21:01:35 GMT
Wales is the blueprint for a Labour government, and the Welsh have never been as disgruntled.
20 mph zones popping up everywhere.
Building on greenbelt land, trying to turn Wales in to a concrete jungle.
Closing tourist hotels to house illegal migrants.
Mark Drakeford is resigning because the people of Wales are sick to death of Labour and their policies.
A taste of things to come for England.
ha ha ha, if you only had a minute part of your thinking that wasn't poisoned by your political bias, you might post something sensible, but I wouldn't bet on it. Dribbling old fart.......Just like paddy biden.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 14, 2024 22:37:53 GMT
Wales is the blueprint for a Labour government, and the Welsh have never been as disgruntled.
20 mph zones popping up everywhere.
Building on greenbelt land, trying to turn Wales in to a concrete jungle.
Closing tourist hotels to house illegal migrants.
Mark Drakeford is resigning because the people of Wales are sick to death of Labour and their policies.
A taste of things to come for England.
ha ha ha, if you only had a minute part of your thinking that wasn't poisoned by your political bias, you might post something sensible, but I wouldn't bet on it. If Wales is not the blueprint what have the Labour party in Wales been doing for the past 25 years?
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 23:04:04 GMT
ha ha ha, if you only had a minute part of your thinking that wasn't poisoned by your political bias, you might post something sensible, but I wouldn't bet on it. If Wales is not the blueprint what have the Labour party in Wales been doing for the past 25 years? [b Labour in Wales for the past 25yr have been winning what else can we say
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 14, 2024 23:05:25 GMT
Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention figures The latest YouGov/Times voting intention poll shows the Conservatives on 22% of the vote (-2 from our previous survey on 19-20 December) to Labour's 46% (+3).
Elsewhere, the Liberal Democrats have 10% of the vote (no change), while Reform UK have 9% of the vote (-2) and the Greens have 7% (-1).
Going from Strength to strength.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 15, 2024 9:34:02 GMT
If Wales is not the blueprint what have the Labour party in Wales been doing for the past 25 years? [b Labour in Wales for the past 25yr have been winning what else can we say So Labour 'winning' means a worse NHS, worse education results, worse water system, worse economic growth etc etc... Now that is something to aspire to...
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Post by Totheleft on Jan 15, 2024 9:38:11 GMT
[b Labour in Wales for the past 25yr have been winning what else can we say So Labour 'winning' means a worse NHS, worse education results, worse water system, worse economic growth etc etc... Now that is something to aspire to... No it means leading a Government for 25yrs .yep that's something to aspire to yep it is.
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Post by om15 on Jan 15, 2024 10:18:37 GMT
Before she was silenced and bundled into a broom cupboard Angela Raynor told us that Wales and London demonstrate how Labour will run the Country. Quite.
The Tories have given the Country a good shove downhill, but nothing like the precipice that Labour will heave us over. I have been giving a thought to where it all went wrong, I think that the treacherous and deceitful Mrs May started it all with her duplicity and lies over Brexit, followed by the chaotic, incompetent and shambolic Johnson, we might have recovered under Truss, but "they" swiftly removed her and put in a Prime Minister and Chancellor that none voted for or wanted, the Tories will be obliterated and quite rightly so.
I suspect those who display enthusiasm for Labour have no recollection of the 1970's.
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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2024 11:26:57 GMT
ha ha ha, if you only had a minute part of your thinking that wasn't poisoned by your political bias, you might post something sensible, but I wouldn't bet on it. If Wales is not the blueprint what have the Labour party in Wales been doing for the past 25 years? Their own independent approach to Welsh problems.
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Post by see2 on Jan 15, 2024 11:34:55 GMT
[b Labour in Wales for the past 25yr have been winning what else can we say So Labour 'winning' means a worse NHS, worse education results, worse water system, worse economic growth etc etc... Now that is something to aspire to... If only you and your crystal ball could separate rational thinking from ingrained political bias, you might actually join in with the real world.
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