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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 11, 2024 12:01:48 GMT
I was thinking how quick the wheels of Westminster can turn when it has to. Virtually overnight Sunak has implemented 'new laws' to overturn the convictions of the Post Office victims. No going through parliament, No vote on it, No going through the House of Lord, NO going through the Supreme Courts, Sunak has done it overnight, unlike when we have to deal with the illegal migrant crisis, that has to go through all of this ^^ and then some. Wrong on four counts. The legislation will go through parliament. There will be a vote on it. It will go through the House of Lords It will be subject to judicial review. ..., legislation that will take a few weeks to pass, meanwhile in the real world and on the next breath 5 years down the line we are still waiting for ONE bill to pass to stop illegal migrants. ... because the lefty Labour are blocking every Tory attempt to Stop them.
Oh hang about the Post Office scandal, that's because Labour/lefties have no desire to play political football with this one, because too many lefties are involved in the wrong doing, quick pass the bill quickly and lets move on... LOL
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 11, 2024 12:03:55 GMT
Wrong on four counts. The legislation will go through parliament. There will be a vote on it. It will go through the House of Lords It will be subject to judicial review. ..., legislation that will take a few weeks to pass, meanwhile in the real world and on the next breath 5 years down the line we are still waiting for ONE bill to pass to stop illegal migrants. ... because the lefty Labour are blocking every Tory attempt to Stop them.
Oh hang about the Post Office scandal, that's because Labour/lefties have no desire to play political football with this one, because too many lefties are involved in the wrong doing, quick pass the bill quickly and lets move on... LOL
You made four errors in your original post. I corrected them. You're welcome. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 11, 2024 12:06:51 GMT
..., legislation that will take a few weeks to pass, meanwhile in the real world and on the next breath 5 years down the line we are still waiting for ONE bill to pass to stop illegal migrants. ... because the lefty Labour are blocking every Tory attempt to Stop them.
Oh hang about the Post Office scandal, that's because Labour/lefties have no desire to play political football with this one, because too many lefties are involved in the wrong doing, quick pass the bill quickly and lets move on... LOL
You made four errors in your original post. I corrected them. You're welcome. you corrected nothing, you just tried unsuccessfully to cover up for the lefty guilty Labour, the Post Office scandal is a lefty disaster that they want the Tories to mop up quickly, before the next GE, I doubt Ed Davey will make it, and Starmer is on thin ice. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 11, 2024 12:09:25 GMT
You made four errors in your original post. I corrected them. You're welcome. you corrected nothing, you just tried unsuccessfully to cover up for the lefty guilty Labour, the Post Office scandal is a lefty disaster that they want the Tories to mop up quickly, before the next GE, I doubt Ed Davey will make it, and Starmer is on thin ice. Okay, let's move through your post one point at a time. You started by saying that Sunak's initiative isn't going through parliament. It is. Sunak is introducing emergency legislation into Parliament to be voted on by Parliament. Address that point and we can move onto your other errors. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 11, 2024 12:14:19 GMT
you corrected nothing, you just tried unsuccessfully to cover up for the lefty guilty Labour, the Post Office scandal is a lefty disaster that they want the Tories to mop up quickly, before the next GE, I doubt Ed Davey will make it, and Starmer is on thin ice. Okay, let's move through your post one point at a time. You said that it wasn't going through parliament. It is. Sunak is introducing emergency legislation into Parliament to be voted on by Parliament. Address that point and we can move onto your other errors. LoL.... nothing more enjoyable than watching lefty double standard hypocrites squirming.
BTW did you fix your scratched Vera Lynn LP, it still sounds like your hip is playing up, you seem very niggled.
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 11, 2024 12:27:04 GMT
Okay, let's move through your post one point at a time. You said that it wasn't going through parliament. It is. Sunak is introducing emergency legislation into Parliament to be voted on by Parliament. Address that point and we can move onto your other errors. LoL.... nothing more enjoyable than watching lefty double standard hypocrites squirming.
BTW did you fix your scratched Vera Lynn LP, it still sounds like your hip is playing up, you seem very niggled.
Address the point. You said that it wasn't going through Parliament. It is. You were wrong ... as usual. No amount of likes from a fellow Daily Mail chav will change that. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 11, 2024 12:34:22 GMT
LoL.... nothing more enjoyable than watching lefty double standard hypocrites squirming.
BTW did you fix your scratched Vera Lynn LP, it still sounds like your hip is playing up, you seem very niggled.
Address the point. You said that it wasn't going through Parliament. It is. You were wrong ... as usual. No amount of likes from a fellow Daily Mail chav will change that. We are niggled today Darling, very serious, never mind I lighten the tone  |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 11, 2024 12:34:53 GMT
Wrong on four counts. The legislation will go through parliament. There will be a vote on it. It will go through the House of Lords It will be subject to judicial review. ..., legislation that will take a few weeks to pass, meanwhile in the real world and on the next breath 5 years down the line we are still waiting for ONE bill to pass to stop illegal migrants. ... because the lefty Labour are blocking every Tory attempt to Stop them.
Oh hang about the Post Office scandal, that's because Labour/lefties have no desire to play political football with this one, because too many lefties are involved in the wrong doing, quick pass the bill quickly and lets move on... LOL
I think that you have misinterpreted what is happening. Labour are of course going to oppose it. Labour cannot stop it. The Tories have a majority of 50 in the HoC at the minute. The only people who can stop it are the Tory rebels (in both factions of the party) by reducing the government's majority. Nothing to do with "lefties", but all about the Civil War in the Tory Party. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 11, 2024 12:36:47 GMT
Address the point. You said that it wasn't going through Parliament. It is. You were wrong ... as usual. No amount of likes from a fellow Daily Mail chav will change that. We are niggled today Darling, very serious, never mind I lighten the tone Okey dokey. You were still completely wrong, though. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 11, 2024 12:38:50 GMT
..., legislation that will take a few weeks to pass, meanwhile in the real world and on the next breath 5 years down the line we are still waiting for ONE bill to pass to stop illegal migrants. ... because the lefty Labour are blocking every Tory attempt to Stop them.
Oh hang about the Post Office scandal, that's because Labour/lefties have no desire to play political football with this one, because too many lefties are involved in the wrong doing, quick pass the bill quickly and lets move on... LOL
I think that you have misinterpreted what is happening. Labour are of course going to oppose it. Labour cannot stop it. The Tories have a majority of 50 in the HoC at the minute. The only people who can stop it are the Tory rebels (in both factions of the party) by reducing the government's majority. Nothing to do with "lefties", but all about the Civil War in the Tory Party. Wrong Labour aren't going to oppose a single thing that make the Post Office scandal drag on.
It's a Labour failure and puts Starmer in a bad light, now it seems not only did he allow a 'Guilty' man Jimmy Savile off the hook, he oversaw 'Innocent' people jailed, not looking good for Starmer/Labour, I know it, you know it, we all know it, especially Labour, they aren't playing their usual political football with this one..... and just for the record they will not be DEMANDING a 'Independent Inquiry' as this will confirm the extent Labour will involved in this scandal.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 11, 2024 12:40:33 GMT
..., legislation that will take a few weeks to pass, meanwhile in the real world and on the next breath 5 years down the line we are still waiting for ONE bill to pass to stop illegal migrants. ... because the lefty Labour are blocking every Tory attempt to Stop them.
Oh hang about the Post Office scandal, that's because Labour/lefties have no desire to play political football with this one, because too many lefties are involved in the wrong doing, quick pass the bill quickly and lets move on... LOL
I think that you have misinterpreted what is happening. Labour are of course going to oppose it. Labour cannot stop it. The Tories have a majority of 50 in the HoC at the minute. The only people who can stop it are the Tory rebels (in both factions of the party) by reducing the government's majority. Nothing to do with "lefties", but all about the Civil War in the Tory Party. Its not just the Tories who are split down the middle. It would help if labour had a manifesto rather than just meaningless sound bites. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 11, 2024 12:51:06 GMT
I think that you have misinterpreted what is happening. Labour are of course going to oppose it. Labour cannot stop it. The Tories have a majority of 50 in the HoC at the minute. The only people who can stop it are the Tory rebels (in both factions of the party) by reducing the government's majority. Nothing to do with "lefties", but all about the Civil War in the Tory Party. Its not just the Tories who are split down the middle. It would help if labour had a manifesto rather than just meaningless sound bites. Why would they have a manifesto when there's no election? None of the parties has written their manifestos yet. And before they write the manifesto they need access to the books, Labour has asked, but Rishi Sunak is prevaricating... |
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Post by ratcliff on Jan 11, 2024 12:52:46 GMT
Sunak is not personally overturning convictions, a new primary law will shortly be introduced to exonerate convicted postmasters , this new law will go through Parliament as usual (but should be supported by all sides) He's personally intervening which amounts to the same thing. In that case would you also condemn James Arbuthnot, the MP who Alan Bates approached who got the ball rolling by ''asking around the House'' of personally intervening? I wouldn't Maybe you'd state that any member of government who announced intention to introduce legislation was ''personally intervening''? News today say that Sir Kneeler has announced plans (if elected) to bring in supervised tooth brushing in primary schools at breakfast club time . All funded by charging VAT on private school fees according to the announcement. Surely that is ''personally intervening'' in the job of parents and nothing to do with politicians? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 11, 2024 12:54:53 GMT
Its not just the Tories who are split down the middle. It would help if labour had a manifesto rather than just meaningless sound bites. Why would they have a manifesto when there's no election? None of the parties has written their manifestos yet. And before they write the manifesto they need access to the books, Labour has asked, but Rishi Sunak is prevaricating... No election, Starmer thought it was May ...'bring it on'.
Are you honestly saying to this forum Starmer was geared up for a May election and has no manifesto?
So in other words you are basically saying Starmer was going to throw together a manifesto in less than 5 months? ....... LOL
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 11, 2024 12:59:28 GMT
Tory Rwanda rebel MPs grow to 40 as Sunak heads for Commons showdown.
The number of Tory MPs calling for Rishi Sunak to toughen up his bill to enable flights to Rwanda has grown to 40 but the Prime Minister has indicated he will not back down believing they will not vote against the legislation.
Ministers believe that Tory rebels are become less inclined to vote down the legislation if they do not get the hardline changes they want and could therefore attempt to pass it without offering significant concessions, although minor tweaks are still a possibility.
Personally I don't regard Tory MP's who want this Rwanda plan to be toughened up, as rebels. I see them as proper centre right Conservatives. It's the others the so called 'one nation' Tories who are the problem, like Sunak they're not proper Conservatives, they're 'new' conservatives, centrists. |
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