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Post by zanygame on Jan 2, 2024 21:28:41 GMT
The government are claiming they have processed a record number of asylum seekers, but what happens to them?
Some 44% have been given citizenship. The rest either withdrew or were refused. But where are they? None have been extradited to my knowledge.
Is it time we had identity cards?
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 2, 2024 22:02:36 GMT
yes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2024 23:48:45 GMT
Yes to ID cards, absolutely.
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Post by dappy on Jan 2, 2024 23:58:18 GMT
Not sure I see the point of identity cards. Very expensive to implement. How practically would you suggest they are Used?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2024 0:04:51 GMT
Not sure I see the point of identity cards. Very expensive to implement. How practically would you suggest they are Used? People should have them with them at all times. Anyone without one should be taken to a police station until they can prove they are in the country legally. |
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Post by zanygame on Jan 3, 2024 7:30:24 GMT
Not sure I see the point of identity cards. Very expensive to implement. How practically would you suggest they are Used? Well in this digital age, more an identity number rather than a physical card. So, you apply for a job and you give your identity number, this brings up your photo on the government website. You are stopped by the police, same along with details about you the police can use to prove who you are. It would be a legal requirement to carry/give this number to the police if requested. Question back for you Dappy. What would you do about the asylum seekers and overstayers who simply disappear. There are estimated over a million people living illegally in the UK. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 3, 2024 7:52:39 GMT
Not sure I see the point of identity cards. Very expensive to implement. How practically would you suggest they are Used? You need one to apply for a job and unscrupulous employers can be easily checked to see if they are employing illegal workers. A system that is used in the rest of Europe. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 3, 2024 7:55:08 GMT
For me you should use your NI number, as that is linked to your right to work and right to claim benefits. Only issue is that these are only allocated at 16. Perhaps these should be allocated from the start of Child Benefit?
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Post by sheepy on Jan 3, 2024 8:02:39 GMT
All I see is a small group of people telling everyone what the Establishment want while nobody actually gets asked what they want. Then when they wake up every day with less freedom and more control, they wonder how that happened.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 3, 2024 8:04:40 GMT
For me you should use your NI number, as that is linked to your right to work and right to claim benefits. Only issue is that these are only allocated at 16. Perhaps these should be allocated from the start of Child Benefit? you would need photo ID - otherwise its no improvement |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 3, 2024 8:12:52 GMT
For me you should use your NI number, as that is linked to your right to work and right to claim benefits. Only issue is that these are only allocated at 16. Perhaps these should be allocated from the start of Child Benefit? you would need photo ID - otherwise its no improvement Don't think it actually needs to be physical - the cost of maintaining a physical card would be huge, and also keeping those up to date would be hugely bureaucratic. An electronic database would be much more preferable. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 3, 2024 8:24:45 GMT
you would need photo ID - otherwise its no improvement Don't think it actually needs to be physical - the cost of maintaining a physical card would be huge, and also keeping those up to date would be hugely bureaucratic. An electronic database would be much more preferable. Yes - but it would still need to have a photograph attached. If an inspector turns up at the local car wash and there are 6 blokes there unless he can physically identify them (and their immigration status) there is not a lot of point in requiring ID. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Jan 3, 2024 8:27:45 GMT
Yes, it absolutely needs to contain an image, very much like your driving licence does.
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Post by sheepy on Jan 3, 2024 8:28:52 GMT
So exactly how will having another level of Bureaucracy stop illegal asylum seekers. When the government and the present level of Bureaucracy has done nothing to stop it.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 3, 2024 8:30:53 GMT
you would need photo ID - otherwise its no improvement Don't think it actually needs to be physical - the cost of maintaining a physical card would be huge, and also keeping those up to date would be hugely bureaucratic. An electronic database would be much more preferable. The cost would be minimal compared to what we pay for hotels. And if I had my way they should also speak English or have a grasp of it. |
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