Post by zanygame on Jan 4, 2024 16:02:54 GMT
Jan 3, 2024 9:14:27 GMT dappy said:
Where are you getting your 44% figure from. As I understand it the current approval rate is around 67%. Why are you correlating people living here illegally with people who came here to claim asylum.Dappy is correct. During 2023 initial decisions were made in 112,138 asylum claims. Of these, 77,019 were substantive decisions (51,469 grants and 25,550 refusals, which is a grant rate of 67%). The remaining 35,119 cases were non-substantive decisions, that is withdrawals and other administrative decisions.
And of course the 44% (actually 67%) who received a positive decision are not given citizenship, as Zany claimed. They are given refugee status which lasts for five years. After that period there is supposed to be a review of present conditions in the state they have fled from to determine if it's safe to return. That never happens though and 100% go on to receive permanent residence and eventually citizenship.
As for the 60,000-odd refusals, withdrawals and voided claimants they're (practically) all still knocking around somewhere or other. There's no way to get rid of them.
There are an additional 94,000 'flow' cases (arrivals since June 2022) still in the backlog.
The point being made that we make no effort to stop illegal immigrants or visa overstayers remaining and working in the UK. Therefore those being granted leave to stay in any form was academic to the point being made.
Dappy asked;
"Why are you correlating people living here illegally with people who came here to claim asylum."
Fair question: I am normally against labelling them all as the same, but in this case discussing identity cards then failed asylum seekers and illegal migrants are all in the same group along with Visa overstayers.
You'll note: I am talking of FAILED asylum seekers.
