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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 11, 2022 4:32:27 GMT
I agree the traditional working class doesn't exist anymore because many have become home owner's and have turned there back on the traditional working class.
That includes you because you addmitted on the po forum you use to vote labour until you bought your house under thatchers right to buy scheme.
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Post by sword on Nov 11, 2022 13:31:52 GMT
Is it any wonder Corbyn was a concern on the doorstep after a savage attack by the establishment that went on for years,many of those people you talk of don't get past the latest SKY report or MSM headline,it was the same in my Town never had a Tory MP in living memory,problem is there are enough thick people willing to vote against their own interests to swing any election. I dont think calling the tradional labour voter thick because they decided not to vote corbyns labour. i think the red wall will return under stammer what tells a story In its self Sorry mate some of them are thick,i know some of them, the two interviewed up in the north east can't remember the town but it was a red wall seat,one of the morons interviewed was complaining about cuts in the area and said he was voting Tory for change,looks like the idiot didn't know the Tories were in power for several years,thats what we are up against,but i don't just blame them i blame the scumbags inside the labour party some MPs for undermining their own party because they didn't like Corbyn,one of the worst was that scumbag John Mann,now Barron Mann thanks to Johnson,and the other rat Ian Austin who i believe was also given a title of Lord,many of those party officials who worked against their own party are still in place under Starmer,thats why i can't vote for them. |
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Post by sword on Nov 11, 2022 13:35:54 GMT
I agree the traditional working class doesn't exist anymore because many have become home owner's and have turned there back on the traditional working class. That includes you because you addmitted on the po forum you use to vote labour until you bought your house under thatchers right to buy scheme. Thats another myth,of course the working class exist,and as for voting for Thatcher because one could buy their council house,that doesn't make any sense at all,could people not buy a house before Thatcher came to power,well i hope it was worth the damage that woman did to the Country. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 11, 2022 13:46:57 GMT
The thing can be said about the welsh there thick because they voted Brexit and there the region of the uk that received the most subsidized from the EU.
Has for them labour mps against corbyn I guess they was MOSSAD agents lol
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Post by sword on Nov 11, 2022 15:24:29 GMT
The thing can be said about the welsh there thick because they voted Brexit and there the region of the uk that received the most subsidized from the EU. Has for them labour mps against corbyn I guess they was MOSSAD agents lol I never said anything about Mossad agents,but make no mistake the Israelis have infuence in the Labour party,it was uncovered by a Al Jazeera report,you are either ignorant of it or you don't care,and how else would you desribe someone who blames Labour for what a Conservative Government has done? idiot is being kind.,when you have time watch this vid,the labour files,its only one such investigation. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 11, 2022 15:59:04 GMT
Sorry mate can't get the video to load .
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Post by sword on Nov 11, 2022 18:13:49 GMT
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 11, 2022 20:19:55 GMT
Thanks mate don't think I can take Aljezeera a state owned Muslim Arab broadcaster has a independent of Isreal-plalistine Affairs when the Arab state of Qatar especially seeing it has such poor record of human rights.
I did watch the video and has shocking has it was like I said cant give it much credibility on the Israel - plalistine conflict.
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Post by sword on Nov 11, 2022 21:14:04 GMT
Thanks mate don't think I can take Aljezeera a state owned Muslim Arab broadcaster has a independent of Isreal-plalistine Affairs when the Arab state of Qatar especially seeing it has such poor record of human rights. I did watch the video and has shocking has it was like I said cant give it much credibility on the Israel - plalistine conflict. But i am talking about the Labour party and how its been infiltrated,the opening part of the video was a vile attack by a jewish man on another Jew and member of the labour party,its just that the lady doesn't support Israel. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 11, 2022 22:35:40 GMT
Yea it certainly was a vile
attack but you can't claim that other jewish Mps in the labour party wasnt attacked by others who supported corbyn.
The independent inquiry by ERHC was convulsive that Anti-semitic abuse was rathe against Jewish MPs in the labour party.
And corbyn decided to ignore it.
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Post by sword on Nov 11, 2022 23:30:15 GMT
Yea it certainly was a vile attack but you can't claim that other jewish Mps in the labour party wasnt attacked by others who supported corbyn. The independent inquiry by ERHC was convulsive that Anti-semitic abuse was rathe against Jewish MPs in the labour party. And corbyn decided to ignore it. If they were attacked it was not because they were jewish,many jewish party members have been thrown out of the party because they were the wrong kind of jew,if you had watched the video you would know Corbyn ignored nothing,it was anti Corbyn elements in the Labour party officials who slowed the investigation down to make it look like Corbyn was doing nothing,i take it you are a party member if so i can't believe you have fallen for the smear instigated by enemies of your own Party. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 13, 2022 14:45:59 GMT
Yea it certainly was a vile attack but you can't claim that other jewish Mps in the labour party wasnt attacked by others who supported corbyn. The independent inquiry by ERHC was convulsive that Anti-semitic abuse was rathe against Jewish MPs in the labour party. And corbyn decided to ignore it. If they were attacked it was not because they were jewish,many jewish party members have been thrown out of the party because they were the wrong kind of jew,if you had watched the video you would know Corbyn ignored nothing,it was anti Corbyn elements in the Labour party officials who slowed the investigation down to make it look like Corbyn was doing nothing,i take it you are a party member if so i can't believe you have fallen for the smear instigated by enemies of your own Party. If anyone is anti-party, they should leave the party. Labour's fight against pre-WWII minded Labour members is a case of growing up. Every party has their various factions, all parties are 'broad church parties' it's only the belligerent "I must have my own way" mindless morons in the party that either cannot or just refuse to grow up. |
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Post by sword on Nov 13, 2022 15:06:03 GMT
If they were attacked it was not because they were jewish,many jewish party members have been thrown out of the party because they were the wrong kind of jew,if you had watched the video you would know Corbyn ignored nothing,it was anti Corbyn elements in the Labour party officials who slowed the investigation down to make it look like Corbyn was doing nothing,i take it you are a party member if so i can't believe you have fallen for the smear instigated by enemies of your own Party. If anyone is anti-party, they should leave the party. Labour's fight against pre-WWII minded Labour members is a case of growing up. Every party has their various factions, all parties are 'broad church parties' it's only the belligerent "I must have my own way" mindless morons in the party that either cannot or just refuse to grow up. Indeed you are talking about the right of the labour party,if they couldn't have their way they would rather lose an election,the right in the labour party have previous,they almost destroyed the party when the gang of four broke away because they couldn't have their own way,these people are scum that led to Thatcher inflicting damage on the Country. |
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Post by see2 on Nov 14, 2022 16:20:14 GMT
If anyone is anti-party, they should leave the party. Labour's fight against pre-WWII minded Labour members is a case of growing up. Every party has their various factions, all parties are 'broad church parties' it's only the belligerent "I must have my own way" mindless morons in the party that either cannot or just refuse to grow up. Indeed you are talking about the right of the labour party,if they couldn't have their way they would rather lose an election,the right in the labour party have previous,they almost destroyed the party when the gang of four broke away because they couldn't have their own way,these people are scum that led to Thatcher inflicting damage on the Country. Your problem is that the moderates, who kept the Tories out of office for the longest period in their history and who lasted more time in office than Old Labour had since 1951, didn't want a revolution taking them back to the pre-WWII period, and you do. |
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Post by sword on Nov 14, 2022 16:56:59 GMT
Indeed you are talking about the right of the labour party,if they couldn't have their way they would rather lose an election,the right in the labour party have previous,they almost destroyed the party when the gang of four broke away because they couldn't have their own way,these people are scum that led to Thatcher inflicting damage on the Country. Your problem is that the moderates, who kept the Tories out of office for the longest period in their history and who lasted more time in office than Old Labour had since 1951, didn't want a revolution taking them back to the pre-WWII period, and you do. The so called moderates PUT the tories in office with the gang of four and in 2019,who said anything about pre WW2? people like Baron Mann and Lord Ian Austin are not labour moderates they are Tories. |
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