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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 10, 2022 19:55:56 GMT
What is ment by Zionist John is it someone who supports the right of isreal state to excist.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2022 20:09:45 GMT
As much as I really do not like Jeremy Corbyn's brand of Labour, and therefore was never happy at him been leader of the Labour Party, I do not believe for one moment that he is racist in any way what so ever, including any suggestion that he's Anti-Semetic.
I am very firmly of the opinion that criticism of Israeli policy ( foreign & defence ) has been misconstrued or interpreted as been Anti Jewish.
I personally have always been of the opinion that both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist as free and independent nations.
I am also firmly of the opinion that many of Israel's actions against the Occupied Territories and the Palestinians CAN be compared to how the Nazi's treated Jews - but I would very firmly reject any suggestion that I am in any way anti Jewish.
Regardless of Corbyn's stance on Israel, I still would not want him, or anyone like him as Labour leader
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Post by sword on Nov 10, 2022 20:12:27 GMT
What is ment by Zionist John is it someone who supports the right of isreal state to excist. As a brutal aggressive Apartheid racist state it doesn't deserve to exist the same as South Africa didn't.
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Post by sword on Nov 10, 2022 20:13:47 GMT
As much as I really do not like Jeremy Corbyn's brand of Labour, and therefore was never happy at him been leader of the Labour Party, I do not believe for one moment that he is racist in any way what so ever, including any suggestion that he's Anti-Semetic. I am very firmly of the opinion that criticism of Israeli policy ( foreign & defence ) has been misconstrued or interpreted as been Anti Jewish. I personally have always been of the opinion that both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist as free and independent nations. I am also firmly of the opinion that many of Israel's actions against the Occupied Territories and the Palestinians CAN be compared to how the Nazi's treated Jews - but I would very firmly reject any suggestion that I am in any way anti Jewish. Regardless of Corbyn's stance on Israel, I still would not want him, or anyone like him as Labour leader You wouldn't have wanted Corbyn as labour leader,well what you ended up with was a Tory horror show.
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:11:25 GMT
There are no such things as RIGHT-WING Labour MPs. LOL!! haaaaaaaaaaaa. Proving your posts are hilarious is quite comforting.
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:27:07 GMT
Have you issraeliken out about the Palestinian Arabs/Muslims and their actions against the Jews? Like I said I support the right of Isreal to excist that includes the right to defend themselves against armed attacks and terrorists attacks from palestinals. im against the shooting of children by isrealist Soligers and the illegal settlements in plalestinian lands I have a large agreement with your post, the missing ingredient is the fact that there is nothing the Israelis could do that would allow them to live in peace in Palestine. I believe this fact is the reason why the Israelis vote for their extremist politicians. I think it is a mistake but it seems that wherever a country has major problems the right are either in power or are near to it.
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:33:47 GMT
What is ment by Zionist John is it someone who supports the right of isreal state to excist. As a brutal aggressive Apartheid racist state it doesn't deserve to exist the same as South Africa didn't. Once again your post proves that you have a very limited depth of thought, choosing to grasp at straws that fit with your limited and extremely biased thinking. And then becoming a slave of your posted totally biased fixed opinionated thinking. What a sad position to be in.
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:36:39 GMT
As much as I really do not like Jeremy Corbyn's brand of Labour, and therefore was never happy at him been leader of the Labour Party, I do not believe for one moment that he is racist in any way what so ever, including any suggestion that he's Anti-Semetic. I am very firmly of the opinion that criticism of Israeli policy ( foreign & defence ) has been misconstrued or interpreted as been Anti Jewish. I personally have always been of the opinion that both Israel and Palestine have a right to exist as free and independent nations. I am also firmly of the opinion that many of Israel's actions against the Occupied Territories and the Palestinians CAN be compared to how the Nazi's treated Jews - but I would very firmly reject any suggestion that I am in any way anti Jewish. Regardless of Corbyn's stance on Israel, I still would not want him, or anyone like him as Labour leader You wouldn't have wanted Corbyn as labour leader,well what you ended up with was a Tory horror show. Yes, what an opportunity missed, and all because Corbyn is a naive idiot.
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Post by sword on Nov 10, 2022 22:43:28 GMT
You wouldn't have wanted Corbyn as labour leader,well what you ended up with was a Tory horror show. Yes, what an opportunity missed, and all because Corbyn is a naive idiot. No,all because people like you would rather have Bozo the clown in power than the Labour party with Corbyn as leader,its down to you.
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:48:02 GMT
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Post by see2 on Nov 10, 2022 22:52:28 GMT
Yes, what an opportunity missed, and all because Corbyn is a naive idiot. No,all because people like you would rather have Bozo the clown in power than the Labour party with Corbyn as leader,its down to you. That is a stupid assessment, I didn't vote for either because I wanted no part of either of them. You voted stupid because you are.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 10, 2022 23:05:43 GMT
Sword like I said before I campaigned on the doors in Heywood what went Blue in 2019 GE .
And what I come across people main concern was apart from Brexit was corbyn has labour leader The electorate in Heywood either voted ukiip or decided not to vote.
Elsewhere on this forum I posted a link that shows for the first time ever more low paid workers voted for Torys then labour wha4 a daming reflexion on corbyn labour.
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Post by sword on Nov 10, 2022 23:28:01 GMT
Sword like I said before I campaigned on the doors in Heywood what went Blue in 2019 GE . And what I come across people main concern was apart from Brexit was corbyn has labour leader The electorate in Heywood either voted ukiip or decided not to vote. Elsewhere on this forum I posted a link that shows for the first time ever more low paid workers voted for Torys then labour wha4 a daming reflexion on corbyn labour. Is it any wonder Corbyn was a concern on the doorstep after a savage attack by the establishment that went on for years,many of those people you talk of don't get past the latest SKY report or MSM headline,it was the same in my Town never had a Tory MP in living memory,problem is there are enough thick people willing to vote against their own interests to swing any election.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 10, 2022 23:49:24 GMT
Sword like I said before I campaigned on the stammer likelyywood what went Blue in 2019 GE . And what I come across people main concern was apart from Brexit was corbyn has labour leader The electorate in Heywood either voted ukiip or decided not to vote. Elsewhere on this forum I posted a link that shows for the first time ever more low paid workers voted for Torys then labour wha4 a daming reflexion on corbyn labour. Is it any wonder Corbyn was a concern on the doorstep after a savage attack by the establishment that went on for years,many of those people you talk of don't get past the latest SKY report or MSM headline,it was the same in my Town never had a Tory MP in living memory,problem is there are enough thick people willing to vote against their own interests to swing any election. I dont think calling the tradional labour voter thick because they decided not to vote corbyns labour. i think the red wall will return under stammer what tells a story In its self
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 11, 2022 4:21:31 GMT
Is it any wonder Corbyn was a concern on the doorstep after a savage attack by the establishment that went on for years,many of those people you talk of don't get past the latest SKY report or MSM headline,it was the same in my Town never had a Tory MP in living memory,problem is there are enough thick people willing to vote against their own interests to swing any election. I dont think calling the tradional labour voter thick because they decided not to vote corbyns labour. i think the red wall will return under stammer what tells a story In its self Labour doesn't have an identity anymore, and you could argue neither do the Tories. Labour was formed by the unions for the working class. Now it has become a party of rivaling ideologies (Social Democrats / Democratic Socialists), and the people actually seem like an afterthought. The other obvious problem is that the traditional "working class" people do not exist anymore. In my opinion both the Tories and Labour need to die, and we need a modern choice.
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