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Post by sword on Nov 9, 2022 12:11:56 GMT
This is what Corbyn and Labour were up against including the antisemitic smear,democracy my arse.
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Post by see2 on Nov 9, 2022 12:28:31 GMT
This is what Corbyn and Labour were up against including the antisemitic smear,democracy my arse. Nope, Corbyn was up against his own naivety, his mind-set is the reason why Labour spend most of their time polishing the opposition benches.
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Post by sword on Nov 9, 2022 13:01:57 GMT
This is what Corbyn and Labour were up against including the antisemitic smear,democracy my arse. Nope, Corbyn was up against his own naivety, his mind-set is the reason why Labour spend most of their time polishing the opposition benches. He was up against among other things people like you who masquerade as Labour supporters but are in actual fact supporters of Israel and US Imperialism to the point of enabling people like Johnson to rule the Country,then you have the audacity to complain.
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Post by dappy on Nov 9, 2022 13:26:32 GMT
Some I know will mourn the passing of Corbyn and his ideology. I respect their right to feel that way.
Others will look at the damage to the country his time as Labour leader resulted in - Brexit for example would almost certainly not have happened without him
I certainly rejoice that there is a credible Labour leader giving real hope that the utterly shambolic Conservatives can be thrown out of No10.
For the benefit of the country, it can't come soon enough as far as I am concerned.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2022 13:35:06 GMT
He was up against among other things people like you who masquerade as Labour supporters but are in actual fact supporters of Israel and US Imperialism to the point of enabling people like Johnson to rule the Country,then you have the audacity to complain. Complains about anti-Semitic "Smears" while bitching about Israel.
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Post by sword on Nov 9, 2022 13:52:31 GMT
He was up against among other things people like you who masquerade as Labour supporters but are in actual fact supporters of Israel and US Imperialism to the point of enabling people like Johnson to rule the Country,then you have the audacity to complain. Complains about anti-Semitic "Smears" while bitching about Israel. Complaining about the crimes of the Apartheid state of Israel isn't antisemitic,only in your Orwellian World.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2022 13:54:49 GMT
Maybe so, but it's the cover story you use to disguise your anti-Semitism.
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Post by Handyman on Nov 9, 2022 13:55:01 GMT
He was up against among other things people like you who masquerade as Labour supporters but are in actual fact supporters of Israel and US Imperialism to the point of enabling people like Johnson to rule the Country,then you have the audacity to complain. Complains about anti-Semitic "Smears" while bitching about Israel.
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Post by sword on Nov 9, 2022 13:56:26 GMT
Some I know will mourn the passing of Corbyn and his ideology. I respect their right to feel that way. Others will look at the damage to the country his time as Labour leader resulted in - Brexit for example would almost certainly not have happened without him I certainly rejoice that there is a credible Labour leader giving real hope that the utterly shambolic Conservatives can be thrown out of No10. For the benefit of the country, it can't come soon enough as far as I am concerned. His ideology was Socialist and anti Imperialist,unlike the present Labour leader who is a watered down Socialist and committed Zionist and US Imperialist supporter,having said that he would still be better than the horror show we have,but i can't vote for him or Labour after what they did to Corbyn and the party.
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Post by sword on Nov 9, 2022 13:57:08 GMT
Maybe so, but it's the cover story you use to disguise your anti-Semitism. No its your cover story for calling me a anti semite.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 9, 2022 14:23:17 GMT
His ideology was Socialist and anti Imperialist,unlike the present Labour leader who is a watered down Socialist and committed Zionist and US Imperialist supporter,having said that he would still be better than the horror show we have,but i can't vote for him or Labour after what they did to Corbyn and the party. Complains about anti-Semitic "Smears" while bitching about "Zionists".
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Post by sword on Nov 9, 2022 14:26:44 GMT
His ideology was Socialist and anti Imperialist,unlike the present Labour leader who is a watered down Socialist and committed Zionist and US Imperialist supporter,having said that he would still be better than the horror show we have,but i can't vote for him or Labour after what they did to Corbyn and the party. Complains about anti-Semitic "Smears" while bitching about "Zionists". Starmer admits he is a supporter of Israel without qualification,i bet you also supported the South African Apartheid Nazis.
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 9, 2022 14:50:43 GMT
What smear? I didn't hear any sensible people call him anti-semitic.
He was accused of turning a blind eye to it, and he confirmed that when he refused to accept the outcome of an independent enquiry into antisemitism in the Labour party... thus leading to him being thrown out of the party. When you look at the demographic of certain Labour seats then it is pretty easy to understand his motive in turning a blind eye to it. You have to remember that he was clinging onto power, his MPs wanted him out, it was only the membership that was keeping him in power.
His first manifesto was ok, but that 2nd one had some really crazy stuff in it. We saw how the markets reacted to the Truss mini budget, can you imagine how they would have reacted to Corbyn's plan to steal 10% of companies? When he announced that, and the hundreds of billions in spending funded by "asking the rich to pay a little more", the tide turned massively against him... that and a Euro-sceptic of 20 years suddenly sitting on the fence over Brexit lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2022 16:01:11 GMT
I am a Labour Party supporter, and have rarely ever voted any other way, I was also a member of the Labour Party, but tore up my membership card during the reign of Jeremy Corbyn. It was also during Mr Corbyns reign as leader that I voted Lib Dem in both the local elections and European elections. Amongs the biggest political lies of the 21st century are that "It was the MSM which destroyed Corbyns chances of becoming Prime Minister". The people who make this ridiculous accusation speak about the MSM as though it were one single body or organisation, but of course it is many organisations .. many newspapers, radio news providers, TV news providers, on-line news providers. The MSM includes MANY MSM news providers who have never been Tory / Conservative supportes, and many who have traditionally always supported the Labour Party, including The Daily Mirror, Sunday People, The Guardian, THe Independent, Huffington Post and others. It was during the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn, and also influenced by the Brexit referendum that the "Culture Wars" became a hot political potato, the Labour leader was often seen as the opposite side of the coin to British independence and patriotism. The "Culture Wars" argument WAS exasperated by Jeremy Corbyn's criticism of Barrak Obama's execution of Osama Bin Laden - his criticism of the execution of "Jihadi John" - his past association with leading IRA terrorists - his opposition to the British Monarchy - his suggestion that the UK should negotiate with Argentina over the Falkland Islands - his support of StopTheWar and CND - his opposition to strong defences and refusal to ever authorise the use of our Nuclear Deterant. It was also the type and kind of people which Corbyn attracted to the Labour Party, Far Left Fanatics, anti capitalists, and those who refused to accept or blame Russia for the Salisbury poisonings. People devoid of any economic or fiscal responsibility, who believed they could embark on building some kind of British Socialist Republic, with borrowed money. Many of the far Left / Corbynite's and Momentum supporters blame Ukraine for the war, they actually believe that Ukraine is full of Nazis, and that Putin is correct in everything he says. Personally I dont want such people in the Labour Party, as far as I am concerned they are not welcome in the Labour Party, and thankfully the party is now very firmly back in sane, moderate and safe hands, with little prospect of the Leftist Loons taking back control. www.youtube.com/watch?v=JikhuJjM1VM
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2022 16:01:42 GMT
He was up against among other things people like you who masquerade as Labour supporters but are in actual fact supporters of Israel and US Imperialism to the point of enabling people like Johnson to rule the Country,then you have the audacity to complain. Complains about anti-Semitic "Smears" while bitching about Israel. It is not anti-Semitic to 'bitch' about Israel even the Israeli government has sad that.
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