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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Dec 31, 2023 18:14:12 GMT
If the official position of the Welsh government were that England had no right to exist and that it's population should be wiped out then yes, I'd support the bombing of Wales. The very core of the Hamas document that said Israel should not exist has been superseded by later 'policies' but of course you know that. And why would I know that? I'm not a Hamas sympathiser.
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 31, 2023 18:38:33 GMT
Being part of Hamas leadership must be quite frustrating. No matter what you say and do, even filming it for the Internet, people still assume you want a peaceful solution with Israel.
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Post by sandypine on Dec 31, 2023 19:40:29 GMT
I have no clear idea how many it is probably many thousands as that does not seem to be disputed. To answer your next question that very much depends. If from Wales there were rockets being fired daily into Bristol and Gloucester and if members of Plaid Cwmru crossed the border and killed thousands of people in Hereford, Leominster and Ludlow, torturing and killing and taking many thousands hostage I may have a lot less sympathy. Since we are on numbers and see if you can answer how many Jews were killed in the holocaust bearing in mind the official Palestinian belief on the Holocaust as a non event and the numbers were wildly exaggerated. The holocaust has nothing to do with it. The Palestinians are an occupied territory and have been for decades and as such, under international law, have a right to defend themselves. Whether Palestine believes in or does not believe in the holocaust or disputes the numbers has nothing to do with the genocide that is taking place in Gaza today. It does appear that you answer infers that you would not support the bombing of civilian structures in Wales but you do in Gaza. It has all to do with numbers supplied by Palestinians. You believe that the Palestinians are telling the truth as regards numbers, are they telling the truth as regards the holocaust numbers? Both of course are intrinsically linked to what is happening in Gaza today. My answer implies that if the Welsh government behaved as the Palestinian government behaved then I would have little sympathy for the Welsh should England attack them. Your inferences are wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 8:24:11 GMT
The holocaust has nothing to do with it. The Palestinians are an occupied territory and have been for decades and as such, under international law, have a right to defend themselves. Whether Palestine believes in or does not believe in the holocaust or disputes the numbers has nothing to do with the genocide that is taking place in Gaza today. It does appear that you answer infers that you would not support the bombing of civilian structures in Wales but you do in Gaza. It has all to do with numbers supplied by Palestinians. You believe that the Palestinians are telling the truth as regards numbers, are they telling the truth as regards the holocaust numbers? Both of course are intrinsically linked to what is happening in Gaza today. My answer implies that if the Welsh government behaved as the Palestinian government behaved then I would have little sympathy for the Welsh should England attack them. Your inferences are wrong. he numbers are coming from the UN. I have more faith in them than either Palestine or Israel. Do you understand the damage a 2000lb bomb can do in a built up civilian area, of course 10s of thousands of civilians have been killed, probably a lot more. Your answer on Wales is that you would condone the murder of innocent civilians to kill 'terrorist' there is no inference.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 8:27:28 GMT
The very core of the Hamas document that said Israel should not exist has been superseded by later 'policies' but of course you know that. And why would I know that? I'm not a Hamas sympathiser. It is nothing to do with being a Hamas sympathiser, as you quaintly put it, it is in the public domain but you would not acknowledge it because it would be against your own narrative that the victims are Israel. Of course your comments make perfect sense since you obviously support genocide.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jan 1, 2024 8:34:19 GMT
And why would I know that? I'm not a Hamas sympathiser. It is nothing to do with being a Hamas sympathiser, as you quaintly put it, it is in the public domain but you would not acknowledge it because it would be against your own narrative that the victims are Israel. Of course your comments make perfect sense since you obviously support genocide. But of course your position presupposes that a genocide is occurring, for which you've adduced no proof. And that I would support it if it were, for which you've also adduced no proof.
And you've already admitted that you don't know the facts, yet you continue to peddle your unsupported narrative.
Which is because you're a Hamas sympathiser. Which you've already admitted.
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Post by sheepy on Jan 1, 2024 9:07:01 GMT
On the Brightside, you didn't get blown up for new year, no matter how much the Israelis and the media wished it so, so no innocent Jews or Palestinians killed in this frenzy of getting feelings running high by the Israelis around the world, so I guess the Palestinians deserve some respect for not listening to the devil whispering in their lugholes but took the correct option, that's not saying there are not rogue elements around, so just remember words count.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 9:07:14 GMT
It is nothing to do with being a Hamas sympathiser, as you quaintly put it, it is in the public domain but you would not acknowledge it because it would be against your own narrative that the victims are Israel. Of course your comments make perfect sense since you obviously support genocide. But of course your position presupposes that a genocide is occurring, for which you've adduced no proof. And that I would support it if it were, for which you've also adduced no proof.
And you've already admitted that you don't know the facts, yet you continue to peddle your unsupported narrative.
Which is because you're a Hamas sympathiser. Which you've already admitted.
I guess it's OK to push Hamas propaganda and break UK anti-terror laws. Meanwhile, Labour are planning to have people prosecuted for calling a man a man. It's a funny old world.
Happy New Year, btw.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 9:21:31 GMT
It is nothing to do with being a Hamas sympathiser, as you quaintly put it, it is in the public domain but you would not acknowledge it because it would be against your own narrative that the victims are Israel. Of course your comments make perfect sense since you obviously support genocide. But of course your position presupposes that a genocide is occurring, for which you've adduced no proof. And that I would support it if it were, for which you've also adduced no proof.
And you've already admitted that you don't know the facts, yet you continue to peddle your unsupported narrative.
Which is because you're a Hamas sympathiser. Which you've already admitted.
The 'facts' will of course be much worse than even we think at this moment but are you saying using phosphorus bombs, 2000lb bombs, targeting hospitals, schools, civilian and refugee camps, all of which Israel confirms, are not war crimes? These are all facts you can quite easily verify. I have not admitted to being a Hamas support but you are well known for being a liar.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 13:07:41 GMT
It appears you will believe anything you are told by Israel. And you take on everything emitted by Hamas. It is impossible to move hundreds of thousands of people in the limited time allowed by the Israelis. It probably is when Hamas make them stay as human shields. Not only bombed, but shot to death on the main road South. Hamas did that to stop their human shields moving. Terrible mistake, which shows 100% that collateral damage is what it is, and not deliberate killing of civilians. Your common sense, perhaps, but see previous reply. That's actually a lie. Those "victims" are being pursued by the IDF because of what the terrorists did on October 7th. They deserve all they get.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 15:02:28 GMT
It appears you will believe anything you are told by Israel. And you take on everything emitted by Hamas. It is impossible to move hundreds of thousands of people in the limited time allowed by the Israelis. It probably is when Hamas make them stay as human shields. Not only bombed, but shot to death on the main road South. Hamas did that to stop their human shields moving. Terrible mistake, which shows 100% that collateral damage is what it is, and not deliberate killing of civilians. Your common sense, perhaps, but see previous reply. That's actually a lie. Those "victims" are being pursued by the IDF because of what the terrorists did on October 7th. They deserve all they get. Hamas do not emit, and no I don't. Now you are talking crazy, Hamas did not shoot and bomb civilians heading south, Israel has admitted it did. The were carrying makeshift white flags, had no clothing on their upper bodies and speaking in Hebrew, the IDF shot two of them and then after a pause shot the third, Hannibal directive. The IDF walked past babies in Al Shifa and left them to die. Another mistake? Palestinians have been the victims of Israeli oppression for decades, why do you take away the right that you hold dear to yourself, the right to resist opposition? If Israel was being blockaded by Palestinian you would want the western world to do something about it, wouldn't you? Why would you not want the same for Gazans?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 15:07:16 GMT
And you take on everything emitted by Hamas. It probably is when Hamas make them stay as human shields. Not only bombed, but shot to death on the main road South. Hamas did that to stop their human shields moving. Terrible mistake, which shows 100% that collateral damage is what it is, and not deliberate killing of civilians. Your common sense, perhaps, but see previous reply. That's actually a lie. Those "victims" are being pursued by the IDF because of what the terrorists did on October 7th. They deserve all they get. Hamas do not emit, and no I don't. Now you are talking crazy, Hamas did not shoot and bomb civilians heading south, Israel has admitted it did. The were carrying makeshift white flags, had no clothing on their upper bodies and speaking in Hebrew, the IDF shot two of them and then after a pause shot the third, Hannibal directive. The IDF walked past babies in Al Shifa and left them to die. Another mistake? Palestinians have been the victims of Israeli oppression for decades, why do you take away the right that you hold dear to yourself, the right to resist opposition? If Israel was being blockaded by Palestinian you would want the western world to do something about it, wouldn't you? Why would you not want the same for Gazans? You are conflating and confusing different incidents now. It's not easy to discuss anything with someone so confused, so I won't.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2024 16:05:53 GMT
Hamas do not emit, and no I don't. Now you are talking crazy, Hamas did not shoot and bomb civilians heading south, Israel has admitted it did. The were carrying makeshift white flags, had no clothing on their upper bodies and speaking in Hebrew, the IDF shot two of them and then after a pause shot the third, Hannibal directive. The IDF walked past babies in Al Shifa and left them to die. Another mistake? Palestinians have been the victims of Israeli oppression for decades, why do you take away the right that you hold dear to yourself, the right to resist opposition? If Israel was being blockaded by Palestinian you would want the western world to do something about it, wouldn't you? Why would you not want the same for Gazans? You are conflating and confusing different incidents now. It's not easy to discuss anything with someone so confused, so I won't. No answer came the stern reply.
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