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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 12:18:11 GMT
So you don't want to compare Sweden with comparable culture and population density countries because they show the 'Sweden' argument against lockdown to be a crock  You seem to have missed the whole point of this. There's more to consider than how many people died of Covid - which BTW different countries measure in different ways. You need to consider "excess deaths" to get an accurate picture. You're making the mistake of thinking that there aren't deaths caused by lockdown. Poverty causes deaths too, and there are known to be a large number of cases of cancer that have been missed because of lockdowns. These deaths are further down the line of course. And you're also making the mistake of thinking that the govts "model" for the virus was anywhere near accurate. It wasn't. Like all Ferguson's models it was massively pessimistic. One thing that most people should have learned from Covid is that "models" are not reliable. What I've read seems to confirm that lockdowns didn't work from the point of view of saving lives - and have done huge damage to the economies of all countries that have used them. And poverty kills. Sorry, I tried, but the more you try and be reasonable with him the more unreasonable he becomes. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 14, 2022 13:36:37 GMT
Yes. I think he's more interested in making party political points than rational debate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 15:39:39 GMT
So you don't want to compare Sweden with comparable culture and population density countries because they show the 'Sweden' argument against lockdown to be a crock A bit like you started attacking me when I pointed out that Spain with more severe measures had more deaths than Sweden. There seems to be no debating this with you, so I'll stop here and leave you with your fixed and defective mindset. As Steppenwolf has mentioned, there are now a high level of excess deaths, compared to the 5 year average in this country. But to Covid cultists only deaths within 28 days of a test count. Not deaths caused by heart problems, blood clots, or cancer. Even though they are generally younger, but just as dead? |
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Post by Steve on Nov 14, 2022 17:54:25 GMT
Which part of 'It was never about the deaths' is still not getting through?
And you point on Spain was demolished as have your points on Sweden that was a disaster compared to comparable nations. You don't like this but it's true.
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