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Post by jonksy on Dec 18, 2023 3:59:39 GMT
No they were not. Italy who are a member of NATO sent a force of 2 advisers who never even turned up. Spains force had the grand total of zero along with France and Gemany. You are muddled old man and thinking off GW1 not GW2 which had no UN mandate and was illegal. We know you worship Blair but it has been proven that he mislead parliament over his fictious WMD's. You have distorted my post enabling you to insinuate a pack of lies. You have a serious mind problem that is probably held by many others who like yourself can't wait to get their daily dose of political bias from the Mail and the Express. WMD Bombs were found in 1997 or 98. found and destroyed approximately 6 or 7 years after Saddam had argued that he had destroyed all WMD. Check it out for yourself. Ditto the WMD found by the post invasion Iraq Survey Group. Please educate yourself before replying. It's you who has distorted the post. I repeat NO WMD's have ever been found a few conventional bombs were destroyed along with some artillery shells and hand grenades. It seems it's only you that doesn't understand what WMD's are. And as for me educating myself maybe you should take your own advise.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 8:49:51 GMT
You have distorted my post enabling you to insinuate a pack of lies. You have a serious mind problem that is probably held by many others who like yourself can't wait to get their daily dose of political bias from the Mail and the Express. WMD Bombs were found in 1997 or 98. found and destroyed approximately 6 or 7 years after Saddam had argued that he had destroyed all WMD. Check it out for yourself. Ditto the WMD found by the post invasion Iraq Survey Group. Please educate yourself before replying. It's you who has distorted the post. I repeat NO WMD's have ever been found a few conventional bombs were destroyed along with some artillery shells and hand grenades. It seems it's only you that doesn't understand what WMD's are. And as for me educating myself maybe you should take your own advise. Thu 18 Sep 2003 02.40 BST "The former UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, believes that Iraq destroyed most of its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago, according to an interview broadcast yesterday."
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Post by sheepy on Dec 18, 2023 8:54:04 GMT
He should be stripped of his knighthood because he isn't an honourable person and never has been, although that doesn't count for much these days.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 18, 2023 8:55:57 GMT
It's you who has distorted the post. I repeat NO WMD's have ever been found a few conventional bombs were destroyed along with some artillery shells and hand grenades. It seems it's only you that doesn't understand what WMD's are. And as for me educating myself maybe you should take your own advise. Thu 18 Sep 2003 02.40 BST "The former UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, believes that Iraq destroyed most of its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago, according to an interview broadcast yesterday." There were no WMD'S c2nile. Blair is a total lying arsehole. And I suppose you are referring to blix who is probably more corrupt than Blair. EDIT...https://www.jstor.org/stable/40210045
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 18, 2023 9:04:23 GMT
It's you who has distorted the post. I repeat NO WMD's have ever been found a few conventional bombs were destroyed along with some artillery shells and hand grenades. It seems it's only you that doesn't understand what WMD's are. And as for me educating myself maybe you should take your own advise. Thu 18 Sep 2003 02.40 BST "The former UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, believes that Iraq destroyed most of its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago, according to an interview broadcast yesterday." So let's get this straight, the WMD were 'destroyed' 10 years 'before' 18th 2003, meaning in 1993 all WMD were destroyed?
So now you are absolutely confirming 'YOURSELF', that Bush/Blair knew that all WMD were destroyed in 1993, so their war was ILLEGAL, they knew in 2003 there were no WMD, so they lied.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 9:27:39 GMT
Don't lie. This is what you posted. "For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either". That is a reference to the last two decades. As you apparently know nothing about the mess Blair / New Labour inherited in 1997 then you are in no position to judge between the two. I am only that rude in reply to the excess rudeness in the post I reply to. If you had one iota of objectivity in your posts you would not have needed that to be explained to you. Would you mind posting your age, as that might help me to understand your posts better. There we go again it’s a lie,not very respectful is it? It is my opinion that Blair and Cameron had much in common torie recently consulted him for advice and there is little to choose between them. As regards my age I guess your motive in asking that ,if you were objective in your replies you wouldn’t be freely flinging insults of idiocy lying and people only having excrement between their ears at all and sundry and would instead produce facts that backed up your assertions. Blair is one of Britains most hated politicians and that applies from people across the political spectrum ,you might not like it but they are not all liars,intellecually challenged or ignorant of the relevant facts 1.Then don't tell lies. You have already been informed of your 'mistake'. 2. Nothing to do with what I've posted. Even so, that a center-Left and a center-right politician might have some things in common makes sense. Both wish to keep the more extreme politics to a minimum. But that does not mean that both are the same. That "both are the same" is a Righty propaganda lie that twists the Conservative government's failure to govern responsibly by insinuating it's really Just a Labour government in disguise. I mean how obvious does it have to get before people wake up to the reality. 3. You have also had that explained to you, it is your inability to understand, or to deliberately ignore explanations, that leads me to enquire about your age. 4. Funny that when I ask Blair detractors like yourself to explain their objections to Blair I get no in depth explanations or proof, just opinions. Which indicates to me that his detractors have sucked up all the anti-Blair propaganda that has misled so many people. The Tory propaganda machine has worked overtime in its attempt to destroy Blair along with New Labour. New Labour is the opposition political party that kept them out of office for the longest period in their history, so destroying it was of the utmost importance to the Tories. Judging by comments from people like yourself, they have done a very good job of it. Objectivity would have cleaned this misguided mess up long ago.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 9:29:51 GMT
He should be stripped of his knighthood because he isn't an honourable person and never has been, although that doesn't count for much these days. Sorry but your ill-informed OPINIONS on this matter count for a great big zero.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 18, 2023 9:31:27 GMT
He should be stripped of his knighthood because he isn't an honourable person and never has been, although that doesn't count for much these days. Sorry but your ill-informed OPINIONS on this matter count for a great big zero. Easy, stop making them, then it wouldn't be a problem.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 9:34:50 GMT
Thu 18 Sep 2003 02.40 BST "The former UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, believes that Iraq destroyed most of its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago, according to an interview broadcast yesterday." There were no WMD'S c2nile. Blair is a total lying arsehole. And I suppose you are referring to blix who is probably more corrupt than Blair. EDIT...https://www.jstor.org/stable/40210045 According to Hans Blix you are wrong, so your argument is with Blix, not with me. Now please attempt to get that into your obviously senile brain. It is typical of Righties to denigrate rather than to debate, so I will ignore you attack on Blix.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 9:36:04 GMT
Sorry but your ill-informed OPINIONS on this matter count for a great big zero. Easy, stop making them, then it wouldn't be a problem. Please explain the problem you refer to.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 18, 2023 9:37:04 GMT
Easy, stop making them, then it wouldn't be a problem. Please explain the problem you refer to. The problem with your ill-informed opinions you try and pass off as fact.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 18, 2023 9:40:15 GMT
There we go again it’s a lie,not very respectful is it? It is my opinion that Blair and Cameron had much in common torie recently consulted him for advice and there is little to choose between them. As regards my age I guess your motive in asking that ,if you were objective in your replies you wouldn’t be freely flinging insults of idiocy lying and people only having excrement between their ears at all and sundry and would instead produce facts that backed up your assertions. Blair is one of Britains most hated politicians and that applies from people across the political spectrum ,you might not like it but they are not all liars,intellecually challenged or ignorant of the relevant facts 1.Then don't tell lies. You have already been informed of your 'mistake'. 2. Nothing to do with what I've posted. Even so, that a center-Left and a center-right politician might have some things in common makes sense. Both wish to keep the more extreme politics to a minimum. But that does not mean that both are the same. That "both are the same" is a Righty propaganda lie that twists the Conservative government's failure to govern responsibly by insinuating it's really Just a Labour government in disguise. I mean how obvious does it have to get before people wake up to the reality. 3. You have also had that explained to you, it is your inability to understand, or to deliberately ignore explanations, that leads me to enquire about your age. 4. Funny that when I ask Blair detractors like yourself to explain their objections to Blair I get no in depth explanations or proof, just opinions. Which indicates to me that his detractors have sucked up all the anti-Blair propaganda that has misled so many people. The Tory propaganda machine has worked overtime in its attempt to destroy Blair along with New Labour. New Labour is the opposition political party that kept them out of office for the longest period in their history, so destroying it was of the utmost importance to the Tories. Judging by comments from people like yourself, they have done a very good job of it. Objectivity would have cleaned this misguided mess up long ago. I don’t need you to explain anything to me,I’m not a righty as you say and I don’t appreciate being called a liar. I will leave you to your devotion of Blair.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 9:48:15 GMT
Thu 18 Sep 2003 02.40 BST "The former UN chief weapons inspector, Hans Blix, believes that Iraq destroyed most of its weapons of mass destruction 10 years ago, according to an interview broadcast yesterday." So let's get this straight, the WMD were 'destroyed' 10 years 'before' 18th 2003, meaning in 1993 all WMD were destroyed?
So now you are absolutely confirming 'YOURSELF', that Bush/Blair knew that all WMD were destroyed in 1993, so there war was ILLEGAL, they knew in 2003 there were no WMD, so they lied.
You are really comical sometimes. Most of, is not all of. And even that was hindsight by Blix some 6 months after the invasion. That really shouldn't have needed to be explained. Absolutely no one knew for certain whether or not WMD existed in Iraq at the beginning of the invasion, but there was plenty of circumstantial evidence to make people believe there was. I can list that evidence if you wish.
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 9:51:47 GMT
Please explain the problem you refer to. The problem with your ill-informed opinions you try and pass off as fact. If I post an opinion I usually post IMO. When I challenge you on your opinions posted as facts you fail to respond. So all you are doing is to look for an escape route for lack of information.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 18, 2023 9:54:27 GMT
The problem with your ill-informed opinions you try and pass off as fact. If I post an opinion I usually post IMO. When I challenge you on your opinions posted as facts you fail to respond. So all you are doing is to look for an escape route for lack of information. Or I don't take the bait, of using ill-informed opinion as a weapon to wave around, while others do, I just take away your masturbation material.
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