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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 15:59:03 GMT
Childish term? You may think so but I try at least to confine my insults to individuals outside of the forum.  I know you think otherwise but Bliar is a stain on this nations politics and it seems Starmer if he wins the election would like to do a Cameron and elevate the grinning one to the HoL and bring him back in to govt god help us all. The liar declares it’s something he doesn’t want (yeah right) but anyway you make the mistake of thinking labour and tories are different,they’re not. For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either,some posters on here are saying the country is heading for a civil war,sadly they’re right and it may not be next year or even several years but if we stay on the present political course it will happen won’t be good and people like Yaxley Lennon and worse will come to the fore. I ought to let you know that if See 2 feels like catching some rays and acquiring a tan you will probably find him lying underneath a squatting Blair, in the firm belief that the sun shines out of his arse. Time for you to STFU, it would be so much better than being a childish idiot. |
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Post by wapentake on Dec 17, 2023 16:03:36 GMT
Childish term? You may think so but I try at least to confine my insults to individuals outside of the forum. I know you think otherwise but Bliar is a stain on this nations politics and it seems Starmer if he wins the election would like to do a Cameron and elevate the grinning one to the HoL and bring him back in to govt god help us all. The liar declares it’s something he doesn’t want (yeah right) but anyway you make the mistake of thinking labour and tories are different,they’re not. For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either,some posters on here are saying the country is heading for a civil war,sadly they’re right and it may not be next year or even several years but if we stay on the present political course it will happen won’t be good and people like Yaxley Lennon and worse will come to the fore. I have a sound piece of advice for you, 'look up and study two words. They is 'Objective' and 'Subjective'. Understanding them could make a massive improvement to your posts. I had to have a chuckle at your comment that "For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either". That would be "at least 20 years" of Tory government. Yeah like I said little to choose two decades ago Blair was pm then brown then Cameron the coward who was Blair mk2 |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 16:09:23 GMT
I wouldn't mind you posting the alternative, bearing in mind that about a dozen UN resolutions over the years requiring Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire Agreement, and the 12 years of refusing to fully comply along with the failed use of sanctions. The 'excuse' (that's my word) for the invasion was about turning Iraq into a democracy. Which they did. I take it that you do understand the term "FINAL OPPORTUNITY." To me it states the case of --- No More Opportunities --- end of. How many other NATO countries joined in with the USA and UK c2nile and actully sent forces on blairs crusade?? Answe none to those who have a brain rather than a baron wilderness will wonder why? IIRC over 30 countries were involved one way or another. The only country to deny help was Turkey. OK Mr. Shithead. If you could make a pathway through the shit between your ears, you just might begin to understand that the UN Security Council passed the vote for "A FINAL OPPORTUNITY" For Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire Agreement he signed up to. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 16:14:09 GMT
I have a sound piece of advice for you, 'look up and study two words. They is 'Objective' and 'Subjective'. Understanding them could make a massive improvement to your posts. I had to have a chuckle at your comment that "For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either". That would be "at least 20 years" of Tory government. Yeah like said littleto choose two decades ago Blairwas pm then brown then Cameron the coward who was Blair mk2 That is not what you posted, which is why you have moved the goal posts. Judging by your comments you have no Idea just how bad things were when Blair New Labour entered office. in which case you are not in a position to judge. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 16:19:56 GMT
The so called "Dodgy Dossier" was given that title by a very unreliable source. I'll put a tenner to a charity and you can cover it, that you do not know what was sort of dodgy about that dossier  All you have to do is to post that information ASAP. LOL nice try, but it has been covered a million times at least. Being denial doesn't change that. Be honest, you do not know how or why the "Dodgy Dossier" got that term. I know and you don't, so your post isn't even a nice try, it is just you avoiding the obvious. Live with it. |
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Post by wapentake on Dec 17, 2023 16:27:57 GMT
Yeah like said littleto choose two decades ago Blairwas pm then brown then Cameron the coward who was Blair mk2 That is not what you posted, which is why you have moved the goal posts. Judging by your comments you have no Idea just how bad things were when Blair New Labour entered office. in which case you are not in a position to judge. That is what I posted and you obviously went to the same school of mathematics as Abbott It might help though before you start lecturing me on what is objective if you didn’t call other posters idiots or as to Srb7677 when you said this You really are in no position to lecture others about posts when you do this. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 17, 2023 16:32:24 GMT
Both Hussein and Bin Laden could have brought both the Bush 'family' and administration down, they knew too much about their dirty dealings, and were far more dangerous than Hussein/Bin Laden, not denying they weren't saints but compared to the Bush mafia they were small fry, they had to go, and who is going to argue with dodgy dossiers, that contain proof there were WMD?
BTW to this very day no such weapons have ever been found, and any proof they existed in the first place.
Posting lies about the "Dodgy Dossier" exposes the fact that you do not know what you are posting about. BTW your last comment is wrong and is based upon pure hindsight. It all makes you look so stupid. So why did they not find any WMD?
They had the best state of the art technology at their disposal to find such weapons, where do you think Hussein was hiding them, up his jumper?
Then when the dodgy dossier was called in to question they made up some cock and bull story to cover their backs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 17:44:59 GMT
I ought to let you know that if See 2 feels like catching some rays and acquiring a tan you will probably find him lying underneath a squatting Blair, in the firm belief that the sun shines out of his arse. Time for you to STFU, it would be so much better than being a childish idiot. At least I don't hero worship anyone. Now that really would be infantile, as well as subcontracting your brain out to your emotions. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Dec 17, 2023 21:27:05 GMT
Mod' notice
Can we try to stick to attacking the argument not each other please.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 17, 2023 21:48:03 GMT
How many other NATO countries joined in with the USA and UK c2nile and actully sent forces on blairs crusade?? Answe none to those who have a brain rather than a baron wilderness will wonder why? IIRC over 30 countries were involved one way or another. The only country to deny help was Turkey. OK Mr. Shithead. If you could make a pathway through the shit between your ears, you just might begin to understand that the UN Security Council passed the vote for "A FINAL OPPORTUNITY" For Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire Agreement he signed up to. No they were not. Italy who are a member of NATO sent a force of 2 advisers who never even turned up. Spains force had the grand total of zero along with France and Gemany. You are muddled old man and thinking off GW1 not GW2 which had no UN mandate and was illegal. We know you worship Blair but it has been proven that he mislead parliament over his fictious WMD's. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 23:23:46 GMT
That is not what you posted, which is why you have moved the goal posts. Judging by your comments you have no Idea just how bad things were when Blair New Labour entered office. in which case you are not in a position to judge. That is what I posted and you obviously went to the same school of mathematics as Abbott It might help though before you start lecturing me on what is objective if you didn’t call other posters idiots or as to Srb7677 when you said this You really are in no position to lecture others about posts when you do this. Don't lie. This is what you posted. "For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either". That is a reference to the last two decades. As you apparently know nothing about the mess Blair / New Labour inherited in 1997 then you are in no position to judge between the two. I am only that rude in reply to the excess rudeness in the post I reply to. If you had one iota of objectivity in your posts you would not have needed that to be explained to you. Would you mind posting your age, as that might help me to understand your posts better. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 23:38:28 GMT
IIRC over 30 countries were involved one way or another. The only country to deny help was Turkey. OK Mr. Shithead. If you could make a pathway through the shit between your ears, you just might begin to understand that the UN Security Council passed the vote for "A FINAL OPPORTUNITY" For Saddam to comply with the Ceasefire Agreement he signed up to. No they were not. Italy who are a member of NATO sent a force of 2 advisers who never even turned up. Spains force had the grand total of zero along with France and Gemany. You are muddled old man and thinking off GW1 not GW2 which had no UN mandate and was illegal. We know you worship Blair but it has been proven that he mislead parliament over his fictious WMD's. You have distorted my post enabling you to insinuate a pack of lies. You have a serious mind problem that is probably held by many others who like yourself can't wait to get their daily dose of political bias from the Mail and the Express. WMD Bombs were found in 1997 or 98. found and destroyed approximately 6 or 7 years after Saddam had argued that he had destroyed all WMD. Check it out for yourself. Ditto the WMD found by the post invasion Iraq Survey Group. Please educate yourself before replying. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 23:43:42 GMT
Posting lies about the "Dodgy Dossier" exposes the fact that you do not know what you are posting about. BTW your last comment is wrong and is based upon pure hindsight. It all makes you look so stupid. So why did they not find any WMD?
They had the best state of the art technology at their disposal to find such weapons, where do you think Hussein was hiding them, up his jumper?
Then when the dodgy dossier was called in to question they made up some cock and bull story to cover their backs.
They did, check out the post invasion Iraq Survey Group findings. The second and so called 'Dodgy Dossier' was referred to as such for what genuine provable reason? If you cannot identify that reason, I suggest you stop making up lies about it. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 18, 2023 0:04:42 GMT
Time for you to STFU, it would be so much better than being a childish idiot. At least I don't hero worship anyone. Now that really would be infantile, as well as subcontracting your brain out to your emotions. YOUR insults are water off a ducks back. I mostly make allowances for your nastiness as being down to your disappointment to get your hard left political desires met. And having them displaced by a potentially moderate center-Left government who have the desire to use the present system "for the many not the few". What a brilliant idea, first mentioned by New Labour. I don't hero worship Blair, in fact in terms of political admiration I would place both Brown and Darling ahead of Blair, Blair was just a good mouthpiece. The problem is that most lies or insinuated lies are against Blair and Brown, it is in showing the lies to be lies that I post so much about Blair and Brown. |
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Post by wapentake on Dec 18, 2023 0:19:38 GMT
That is what I posted and you obviously went to the same school of mathematics as Abbott It might help though before you start lecturing me on what is objective if you didn’t call other posters idiots or as to Srb7677 when you said this You really are in no position to lecture others about posts when you do this. Don't lie. This is what you posted. "For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either". That is a reference to the last two decades. As you apparently know nothing about the mess Blair / New Labour inherited in 1997 then you are in no position to judge between the two. I am only that rude in reply to the excess rudeness in the post I reply to. If you had one iota of objectivity in your posts you would not have needed that to be explained to you. Would you mind posting your age, as that might help me to understand your posts better. There we go again it’s a lie,not very respectful is it? It is my opinion that Blair and Cameron had much in common torie recently consulted him for advice and there is little to choose between them. As regards my age I guess your motive in asking that ,if you were objective in your replies you wouldn’t be freely flinging insults of idiocy lying and people only having excrement between their ears at all and sundry and would instead produce facts that backed up your assertions. Blair is one of Britains most hated politicians and that applies from people across the political spectrum ,you might not like it but they are not all liars,intellecually challenged or ignorant of the relevant facts |
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