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Post by Bentley on Dec 16, 2023 23:12:19 GMT
You didn’t read it and posted waffle to hide that you didn’t read it. Just as you have posted nonsense and projected it at me to hide it. There is no debating with you once you enter your silly mood. I’d read the article if I were you . |
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Post by see2 on Dec 16, 2023 23:26:20 GMT
I did read it and I answered the very relevant part that you highlighted, this appears to be too complicated for you, thus your nonsense reply. The only thing relevant that post the Bush Blair expedition is the question Following that was the UK and it’s people in a safer position than before the now discredited WMD’s and their 45 minute deployment Were relations with the people of the Middle East more cordial Were the people of Iraq in a better place and following the crushing of the Ba’ath party that left the power vacuum which led to Islamic state and Iraq still in turmoil. If you answer yes to all those see2 you are living a fantasy that Bliar wasn’t along with Bush responsible because in any sane world the answer to each is no. Your post is a fantasy concocted up in your own mind. 1. IMO the UK was in a less safe position after the invasion of Iraq. That does not change the fact that the invasion was legal and it was time for the UK, --- still involved in the conflict with Iraq at that point --- to unhook itself from that conflict. The WMD being discredited is hindsight because absolutely no one could prove their absence before the invasion, just ask Hans Blix. --- The Iraq Survey group found 50 WMD after the invasion. The 45 mins was discredited and dropped before the invasion. 2. Superficially yes. I've just seen a Palestinian Arab on the news calling for visa' for Palestinian Arabs. He blamed the UK for the problems in Palestine, a reference to giving the Palestinian Jews an area of Jurisdiction in Palestine. He is as delusional as many other people in believing the Arabs are the victims when in reality it was the Arabs that waged 20 years of wars and many more years of terrorism against the Jews. 3. The Sunni Muslims weren't but the Shai Muslims absolutely were. 4. Anyone who uses the childish term "Bliar" should be looking for a junior forum to post on. |
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Post by wapentake on Dec 17, 2023 0:32:10 GMT
The only thing relevant that post the Bush Blair expedition is the question Following that was the UK and it’s people in a safer position than before the now discredited WMD’s and their 45 minute deployment Were relations with the people of the Middle East more cordial Were the people of Iraq in a better place and following the crushing of the Ba’ath party that left the power vacuum which led to Islamic state and Iraq still in turmoil. If you answer yes to all those see2 you are living a fantasy that Bliar wasn’t along with Bush responsible because in any sane world the answer to each is no. Your post is a fantasy concocted up in your own mind. 1. IMO the UK was in a less safe position after the invasion of Iraq. That does not change the fact that the invasion was legal and it was time for the UK, --- still involved in the conflict with Iraq at that point --- to unhook itself from that conflict. The WMD being discredited is hindsight because absolutely no one could prove their absence before the invasion, just ask Hans Blix. --- The Iraq Survey group found 50 WMD after the invasion. The 45 mins was discredited and dropped before the invasion. 2. Superficially yes. I've just seen a Palestinian Arab on the news calling for visa' for Palestinian Arabs. He blamed the UK for the problems in Palestine, a reference to giving the Palestinian Jews an area of Jurisdiction in Palestine. He is as delusional as many other people in believing the Arabs are the victims when in reality it was the Arabs that waged 20 years of wars and many more years of terrorism against the Jews. 3. The Sunni Muslims weren't but the Shai Muslims absolutely were. 4. Anyone who uses the childish term "Bliar" should be looking for a junior forum to post on. Childish term? You may think so but I try at least to confine my insults to individuals outside of the forum.  I know you think otherwise but Bliar is a stain on this nations politics and it seems Starmer if he wins the election would like to do a Cameron and elevate the grinning one to the HoL and bring him back in to govt god help us all. The liar declares it’s something he doesn’t want (yeah right) but anyway you make the mistake of thinking labour and tories are different,they’re not. For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either,some posters on here are saying the country is heading for a civil war,sadly they’re right and it may not be next year or even several years but if we stay on the present political course it will happen won’t be good and people like Yaxley Lennon and worse will come to the fore. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2023 0:40:54 GMT
Your post is a fantasy concocted up in your own mind. 1. IMO the UK was in a less safe position after the invasion of Iraq. That does not change the fact that the invasion was legal and it was time for the UK, --- still involved in the conflict with Iraq at that point --- to unhook itself from that conflict. The WMD being discredited is hindsight because absolutely no one could prove their absence before the invasion, just ask Hans Blix. --- The Iraq Survey group found 50 WMD after the invasion. The 45 mins was discredited and dropped before the invasion. 2. Superficially yes. I've just seen a Palestinian Arab on the news calling for visa' for Palestinian Arabs. He blamed the UK for the problems in Palestine, a reference to giving the Palestinian Jews an area of Jurisdiction in Palestine. He is as delusional as many other people in believing the Arabs are the victims when in reality it was the Arabs that waged 20 years of wars and many more years of terrorism against the Jews. 3. The Sunni Muslims weren't but the Shai Muslims absolutely were. 4. Anyone who uses the childish term "Bliar" should be looking for a junior forum to post on. Childish term? You may think so but I try at least to confine my insults to individuals outside of the forum. I know you think otherwise but Bliar is a stain on this nations politics and it seems Starmer if he wins the election would like to do a Cameron and elevate the grinning one to the HoL and bring him back in to govt god help us all. The liar declares it’s something he doesn’t want (yeah right) but anyway you make the mistake of thinking labour and tories are different,they’re not. For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either,some posters on here are saying the country is heading for a civil war,sadly they’re right and it may not be next year or even several years but if we stay on the present political course it will happen won’t be good and people like Yaxley Lennon and worse will come to the fore. I ought to let you know that if See 2 feels like catching some rays and acquiring a tan you will probably find him lying underneath a squatting Blair, in the firm belief that the sun shines out of his arse. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 17, 2023 9:40:25 GMT
The best thing to do with see2 is write a post like this ..
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..and he'll come back and say 'yes I agree'.
I'd go back on the tablets if I were you. And you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near one, I'm quite happy with the laptop I already have, thank you ....  |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 9:45:14 GMT
According to Blairites everything provable is unprovable. Even a dodgy dossier. It is of course a sign of complete madness. The so called "Dodgy Dossier" was given that title by a very unreliable source. I'll put a tenner to a charity and you can cover it, that you do not know what was sort of dodgy about that dossier  All you have to do is to post that information ASAP. LOL nice try, but it has been covered a million times at least. Being denial doesn't change that. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 17, 2023 10:15:56 GMT
According to Blairites everything provable is unprovable. Even a dodgy dossier. It is of course a sign of complete madness. The so called "Dodgy Dossier" was given that title by a very unreliable source. I'll put a tenner to a charity and you can cover it, that you do not know what was sort of dodgy about that dossier All you have to do is to post that information ASAP. Here's a clue ..
They were looking for WMD that did not exist, and I'll put a tenner to a charity that on record Hussein 'allegedly' bought the necessary ingredients to make WMD from a dodgy source, namely the Bush administration, Hussein knew nothing about his alleged purchase.
The Bush administration could provide this dodgy 'evidence' to prove their case to start their illegal war.
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Post by wapentake on Dec 17, 2023 12:27:20 GMT
The so called "Dodgy Dossier" was given that title by a very unreliable source. I'll put a tenner to a charity and you can cover it, that you do not know what was sort of dodgy about that dossier All you have to do is to post that information ASAP. Here's a clue ..
They were looking for WMD that did not exist, and I'll put a tenner to a charity that on record Hussein 'allegedly' bought the necessary ingredients to make WMD from a dodgy source, namely the Bush administration, Hussein knew nothing about his alleged purchase.
The Bush administration could provide this dodgy 'evidence' to prove their case to start their illegal war.
You don’t mean there are known knowns and unknown knowns made secret visits to Iraq lol |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 17, 2023 12:34:02 GMT
Here's a clue ..
They were looking for WMD that did not exist, and I'll put a tenner to a charity that on record Hussein 'allegedly' bought the necessary ingredients to make WMD from a dodgy source, namely the Bush administration, Hussein knew nothing about his alleged purchase.
The Bush administration could provide this dodgy 'evidence' to prove their case to start their illegal war.
You don’t mean there are known knowns and unknown knowns made secret visits to Iraq lol Both Hussein and Bin Laden could have brought both the Bush 'family' and administration down, they knew too much about their dirty dealings, and were far more dangerous than Hussein/Bin Laden, not denying they weren't saints but compared to the Bush mafia they were small fry, they had to go, and who is going to argue with dodgy dossiers, that contain proof there were WMD?
BTW to this very day no such weapons have ever been found, and any proof they existed in the first place.
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Post by jonksy on Dec 17, 2023 12:37:09 GMT
You don’t mean there are known knowns and unknown knowns made secret visits to Iraq lol Both Hussein and Bin Laden could have brought both the Bush 'family' and administration down, they knew too much about their dirty dealings, and were far more dangerous than Hussein/Bin Laden, not denying they weren't saints but compared to the Bush mafia they were small fry, they had to go, and who is going to argue with dodgy dossiers, that contain proof there were WMD?
BTW to this very day no such weapons have ever been found, and any proof they existed in the first place.
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 12:39:49 GMT
Both Hussein and Bin Laden could have brought both the Bush 'family' and administration down, they knew too much about their dirty dealings, and were far more dangerous than Hussein/Bin Laden, not denying they weren't saints but compared to the Bush mafia they were small fry, they had to go, and who is going to argue with dodgy dossiers, that contain proof there were WMD?
BTW to this very day no such weapons have ever been found, and any proof they existed in the first place.
Maybe see2 came out of his bedroom and found them under his mum's kitchen table. |
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Post by jonksy on Dec 17, 2023 12:47:54 GMT
Maybe see2 came out of his bedroom and found them under his mum's kitchen table. If he did they were under a mountain of his bullshit. |
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Post by sheepy on Dec 17, 2023 12:53:58 GMT
Maybe see2 came out of his bedroom and found them under his mum's kitchen table. If he did they were under a mountain of his bullshit. Careful he doesn't like his own medicine. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 15:50:29 GMT
Your post is a fantasy concocted up in your own mind. 1. IMO the UK was in a less safe position after the invasion of Iraq. That does not change the fact that the invasion was legal and it was time for the UK, --- still involved in the conflict with Iraq at that point --- to unhook itself from that conflict. The WMD being discredited is hindsight because absolutely no one could prove their absence before the invasion, just ask Hans Blix. --- The Iraq Survey group found 50 WMD after the invasion. The 45 mins was discredited and dropped before the invasion. 2. Superficially yes. I've just seen a Palestinian Arab on the news calling for visa' for Palestinian Arabs. He blamed the UK for the problems in Palestine, a reference to giving the Palestinian Jews an area of Jurisdiction in Palestine. He is as delusional as many other people in believing the Arabs are the victims when in reality it was the Arabs that waged 20 years of wars and many more years of terrorism against the Jews. 3. The Sunni Muslims weren't but the Shai Muslims absolutely were. 4. Anyone who uses the childish term "Bliar" should be looking for a junior forum to post on. Childish term? You may think so but I try at least to confine my insults to individuals outside of the forum. I know you think otherwise but Bliar is a stain on this nations politics and it seems Starmer if he wins the election would like to do a Cameron and elevate the grinning one to the HoL and bring him back in to govt god help us all. The liar declares it’s something he doesn’t want (yeah right) but anyway you make the mistake of thinking labour and tories are different,they’re not. For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either,some posters on here are saying the country is heading for a civil war,sadly they’re right and it may not be next year or even several years but if we stay on the present political course it will happen won’t be good and people like Yaxley Lennon and worse will come to the fore. I have a sound piece of advice for you, 'look up and study two words. They is 'Objective' and 'Subjective'. Understanding them could make a massive improvement to your posts. I had to have a chuckle at your comment that "For at least two decades now there’s been little to choose between either". That would be "at least 20 years" of Tory government. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 17, 2023 15:56:08 GMT
You don’t mean there are known knowns and unknown knowns made secret visits to Iraq lol Both Hussein and Bin Laden could have brought both the Bush 'family' and administration down, they knew too much about their dirty dealings, and were far more dangerous than Hussein/Bin Laden, not denying they weren't saints but compared to the Bush mafia they were small fry, they had to go, and who is going to argue with dodgy dossiers, that contain proof there were WMD?
BTW to this very day no such weapons have ever been found, and any proof they existed in the first place.
Posting lies about the "Dodgy Dossier" exposes the fact that you do not know what you are posting about. BTW your last comment is wrong and is based upon pure hindsight. It all makes you look so stupid. |
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