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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 11:07:21 GMT
If anyone can enter the UK via criminal gangs and claim asylum then the laws that allow this should be ignored until changed . Its OK if you don’t like that . Good luck getting the courts to ignore the law. Thank you. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 11:11:15 GMT
Good luck getting the courts to ignore the law. Thank you. Delighted to have been able to help. It goes without saying that you can turn to me for solace when the courts go against you. |
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Post by Orac on Dec 13, 2023 11:11:53 GMT
No they are not. They are breaking into the UK which is illegal under UK law. Yes, it has recently been made illegal under UK law. But the UK law that made it illegal is illegal under international law. No. It is still illegal in most jurisdictions to break in and that itself is not illegal in international law. If you applied the tiniest amount of common sense, rather than pursuing your issue with the uk public, you would see that what you are proposing is idiotic. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 11:15:27 GMT
Yes, it has recently been made illegal under UK law. But the UK law that made it illegal is illegal under international law. No. It is still illegal in most jurisdictions to break in and that itself is not illegal in international law. If you applied the tiniest amount of common sense, rather than pursuing your issue with the uk public, you would see that what you are proposing is idiotic. Yes, it is illegal to enter every country by unorthodox means. That is not disputed. However, international law requires that signatories of the Refugee Convention confer a pardon on genuine refugees who enter by unorthodox or illegal means. According to international law, a refugee does not lose his refugee status merely because he has passed through a safe country. Hence, Ukrainians that have arrived in the UK via Poland retain their refugee status under international law. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 11:17:25 GMT
Delighted to have been able to help. It goes without saying that you can turn to me for solace when the courts go against you. Give me your number and I’ll pass it on to the people living near the illegal immigrants. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 11:18:01 GMT
Delighted to have been able to help. It goes without saying that you can turn to me for solace when the courts go against you. Give me your number and I’ll pass it on to the people living near the illegal immigrants. 666 0666 0666 |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 11:19:42 GMT
No. It is still illegal in most jurisdictions to break in and that itself is not illegal in international law. If you applied the tiniest amount of common sense, rather than pursuing your issue with the uk public, you would see that what you are proposing is idiotic. Yes, it is illegal to enter every country by unorthodox means. That is not disputed. However, international law requires that signatories of the Refugee Convention confer a pardon on genuine refugees who enter by unorthodox or illegal means. According to international law, a refugee does not lose his refugee status merely because he has passed through a safe country. Hence, Ukrainians that have arrived in the UK via Poland retain their refugee status under international law. Brilliant . All we need to do is send them to a Rwanda , process them there and accept the ones we deem as genuine refugees. I wonder why this isn’t happening ? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 11:21:05 GMT
Give me your number and I’ll pass it on to the people living near the illegal immigrants. 666 0666 0666 Thats the number for hermie’s massage parlour . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 11:21:53 GMT
Thats the number for hermie’s massage parlour . Yes. Refugees and pensioners half-price on Fridays. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 11:23:45 GMT
Thats the number for hermie’s massage parlour . Yes. Refugees and pensioners half-price on Fridays. And always a happy ending . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 11:25:56 GMT
Yes. Refugees and pensioners half-price on Fridays. And always a happy ending . Increasingly for the refugees, at least. Not so much for the pensioners. |
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Post by Orac on Dec 13, 2023 11:26:44 GMT
No. It is still illegal in most jurisdictions to break in and that itself is not illegal in international law. If you applied the tiniest amount of common sense, rather than pursuing your issue with the uk public, you would see that what you are proposing is idiotic. Yes, it is illegal to enter every country by unorthodox means. That is not disputed. However, international law requires that signatories of the Refugee Convention confer a pardon.... A pardon means a crime was still committed - some might say a pardon would be logically impossible without a crime. In your rampant enthusiasm to destroy the UK people, you keep over-stretching slightly. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 13, 2023 11:33:29 GMT
And always a happy ending . Increasingly for the refugees, at least. Not so much for the pensioners. Hopefully he can start a second massage parlour in Rwanda . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 13, 2023 11:34:26 GMT
Yes, it is illegal to enter every country by unorthodox means. That is not disputed. However, international law requires that signatories of the Refugee Convention confer a pardon.... A pardon means a crime was still committed - some might say a pardon would be logically impossible without a crime. In your rampant enthusiasm to destroy the UK people, you keep over-stretching slightly. Well done, Mags. Duh! Yes, there would be no point in the Refugee Convention's imposing an obligation to confer a pardon if it wasn't envisaged that refugees would commit crimes. The Refugee Convention absolutely recognises that refugees will commit crimes. It might even be argued that the Refugee Convention encourages crime. That's the Refugee Convention for you! It is what all the signatories signed up to. Don't like it? Then, agitate to leave it. As things stand, the UK is required by international law to confer a pardon on certain people who have broken its laws. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 13, 2023 11:39:42 GMT
They are not tortured or killed in France . Therefore any migrant attempting to enter the UK via France is not an asylum seeker ..by your definition Similarly, anyone who has travelled to the UK from the Ukraine will have passed through safe countries (particularly Poland). They're still refugees. The Ukrainians entered legally on a Visa you clown.. |
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