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Post by happyhornet on Dec 9, 2023 18:05:07 GMT
It's a crackpot theory. That's the best that can be said about it. The two situations you described (Armenians and Jews) are entirely different. They're the exact opposite of what you claim is happening. They would only be relevant comparators if Hitler had decided that he wanted to eradicate the German people and replace them with Jews, or if the Turks had wanted to eradicate Turks and replace them with Armenians. It is not the opposite it is exactly that that people sat in a room and discussed eradicating whole populations You accept that that is what happened in all the above examples yet somehow some group sitting around saying let us swamp the English with mass migration and see if we can breed them out is in your view an absurd notion. The point is history shows us that people conspiring in such a way is not absurd it is quite commonplace. Other genocides weren't self inflicted. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 18:38:15 GMT
Once again, I have no idea what you're talking about. You said last night that you don't believe genocide is occurring. Have you changed your mind again? Where did I specifically say that genocide was not occurring? What have I changed my mind about ? Will you make up your mind? When it was suggested to you last night that you had claimed genocide was happening, you became indignant. Now, you appear to be indignant because it is claimed that you said genocide wasn't happening. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 18:43:14 GMT
Oh, so they hide behind 'humanitarian' and 'economic' motives, then? Why can't their motives just be humanitarian or economic? I mean, that's what they say their motives are, don't they? You can probably find reams of statements from these groups to that effect. But can you find a single statement that says that genocide is their objective? No? So, what is the basis for the crackpot claim that genocide is the objective? Becasue there is irrefutable evidence that the disappearance of the English people from their historic homeland as a majority is a fact not too far distant from being realised. This may be down to all sorts of other factors but it is still obvious that immigration levels are significantly against their wishes and the notion is fairly widespread from ethnic minorities is 'how does it feel'? I could add whitey there if you like. Also the laws are made that mandates diversity and inclusion as diversity is being systematically increased. Another law that bases its existence on 'fairness' and 'equality' whilst doing exactly the opposite. LOL! There's 'irrefutable evidence' that 'the English people' will not be a majority at some point in the future, and you've concluded from this that some powerful group of people has decided to wipe out the 'ethnic English'!!! That's one hell of a leap! Immigrants are welcomed for economic and humanitarian reasons. There is zero evidence of anything else. There are some crackpot theories, but, as is to be expected, there is zero evidence. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 19:01:44 GMT
The definition of genocide that was posted allowed methods of achieving it by other methods than killing or forcing people into it.
We are told that words can mean whatever anyone wants them to mean by an ‘ expert’ on linguistic theory .
So genocide can mean a result of long term social engineering .
So if ethnic English white people disappear in England and it is thought that this was a result of social engineering would social engineering be culpable of genocide ?
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 19:37:35 GMT
The definition of genocide that was posted allowed methods of achieving it by other methods than killing or forcing people into it. We are told that words can mean whatever anyone wants them to mean by an ‘ expert’ on linguistic theory . So genocide can mean a result of long term social engineering . So if ethnic English white people disappear in England and it is thought that this was a result of social engineering would social engineering be culpable of genocide ? Nope, nobody has said that language means what an individual decides it should mean. Trust you to get it entirely wrong. Language is a social phenomenon. More than one person is required. How did you do at school, Bentley? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 19:51:34 GMT
The definition of genocide that was posted allowed methods of achieving it by other methods than killing or forcing people into it. We are told that words can mean whatever anyone wants them to mean by an ‘ expert’ on linguistic theory . So genocide can mean a result of long term social engineering . So if ethnic English white people disappear in England and it is thought that this was a result of social engineering would social engineering be culpable of genocide ? Nope, nobody has said that language means what an individual decides it should mean. Trust you to get it entirely wrong. Language is a social phenomenon. More than one person is required. How did you do at school, Bentley?I didn’t get it wrong darling . If Dave the tranny can call himself a woman and others have to accept it then language is subjective . You would realise that if you were not a product of grooming . |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 19:53:45 GMT
Nope, nobody has said that language means what an individual decides it should mean. Trust you to get it entirely wrong. Language is a social phenomenon. More than one person is required. How did you do at school, Bentley?I didn’t get it wrong darling . If Dave the tranny can call himself a woman and others have to accept it then language is subjective . You would realise that if you were not a product of grooming . Do you think: a) The ‘ethnic English’ are the subjects of genocide. b) The ‘ethnic English’ are the subjects of genocide, but only if the word genocide is given an unusual meaning. c) The ‘ethnic English’ are not the subjects of genocide. If your answer is b), can you explain what meaning you attribute to the word genocide? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 19:56:51 GMT
I didn’t get it wrong darling . If Dave the tranny can call himself a woman and others have to accept it then language is subjective . You would realise that if you were not a product of grooming . Do you think: a) The ‘ethnic English’ are the subjects of genocide. b) The ‘ethnic English’ are the subjects of genocide, but only if the word genocide is given an unusual meaning. c) The ‘ethnic English’ are not the subjects of genocide. If your answer is b), can you explain what meaning you attribute to the word genocide.
I posted a definition of genocide darling . Do have trouble with your memory ? |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 19:59:08 GMT
Do you think: a) The ‘ethnic English’ are the subjects of genocide. b) The ‘ethnic English’ are the subjects of genocide, but only if the word genocide is given an unusual meaning. c) The ‘ethnic English’ are not the subjects of genocide. If your answer is b), can you explain what meaning you attribute to the word genocide.
I posted a definition of genocide darling . Do have trouble with your memory ? So, your answer is b, then. The 'ethnic English' are the subjects of genocide, but only if the word genocide is given an unusual meaning. Thanks for the clarification ... at last! |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 20:05:53 GMT
I posted a definition of genocide darling . Do have trouble with your memory ? So, your answer is b, then. The 'ethnic English' are the subjects of genocide, but only if the word genocide is given an unusual meaning. Thanks for the clarification ... at last! Unusual? Wrong ! You just make that up. Is defining a biological male as a woman attributing an unusual meaning darling ? |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 20:08:23 GMT
So, your answer is b, then. The 'ethnic English' are the subjects of genocide, but only if the word genocide is given an unusual meaning. Thanks for the clarification ... at last! Unusual? Wrong ! You just make that up. Is defining a biological male as a woman an unusual meaning darling ? Last night, you became indignant when it was suggested that you were claiming that genocide is happening. You insisted that you had never said any such thing. Now, you’ve done another u-turn. Now, genocide is happening, apparently. Get your story straight, Bentley. This is what you said last night: ‘So we both agree that I never claimed that genocide was being committed . So why have you repeatedly accused me of claiming this when I have done nothing of the kind ? Did you do this maliciously or was you incapable of following a simple premise ?’ So, which is it, Bentley? |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 9, 2023 20:12:27 GMT
Unusual? Wrong ! You just make that up. Is defining a biological male as a woman an unusual meaning darling ? Last night, you became indignant when it was suggested that you were claiming that genocide is happening. You insisted that you had never said any such thing. Now, you’ve done another u-turn. Now, genocide is happening, apparently. Keep your story straight, Bentley. This is what you said last night: ‘So we both agree that I never claimed that genocide was being committed . So why have you repeatedly accused me of claiming this when I have done nothing of the kind ? Did you do this maliciously or was you incapable of following a simple premise ?’ So, which is it, Bentley? Wrong , you became indignant. I merely asked a question , I never claimed that it was or wasn’t happening. You seem to be incapable of understanding a quite simple premise and consequently inventing ones to attribute to me . |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 9, 2023 20:12:57 GMT
It is not the opposite it is exactly that that people sat in a room and discussed eradicating whole populations You accept that that is what happened in all the above examples yet somehow some group sitting around saying let us swamp the English with mass migration and see if we can breed them out is in your view an absurd notion. The point is history shows us that people conspiring in such a way is not absurd it is quite commonplace. Other genocides weren't self inflicted. Of course they were, Cambodia was political, cultural revolution was political. And realistically we do not know the specific identity of those who are pushing the situation they may have co-opted many English people to help unwittingly. |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 20:13:31 GMT
Last night, you became indignant when it was suggested that you were claiming that genocide is happening. You insisted that you had never said any such thing. Now, you’ve done another u-turn. Now, genocide is happening, apparently. Keep your story straight, Bentley. This is what you said last night: ‘So we both agree that I never claimed that genocide was being committed . So why have you repeatedly accused me of claiming this when I have done nothing of the kind ? Did you do this maliciously or was you incapable of following a simple premise ?’ So, which is it, Bentley? Wrong , you became indignant. I merely asked a question , I never claimed that it was or wasn’t happening. You seem to be incapable of understanding a quite simple premise and consequently inventing ones to attribute to me . LOL! Last night you claimed there was no genocide. Now, you appear to be claiming the reverse. So, were you lying last night, or are you lying now? |
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Post by Einhorn on Dec 9, 2023 20:19:33 GMT
Other genocides weren't self inflicted. Of course they were, Cambodia was political, cultural revolution was political. And realistically we do not know the specific identity of those who are pushing the situation they may have co-opted many English people to help unwittingly. That's a very strange definition of genocide. By that definition, all civil war is genocide. |
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