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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 28, 2023 14:26:02 GMT
I see that the Tories' conspirator in chief, Michael Gove, has been questioned in the Covid enquiry. Why anybody should believe a word this guy says is beyond me, but it was very interesting that, when he tried to talk about the origins of Covid - i.e. the fairly obvious fact that it was created by modifying a bat virus (for gain of function) in the Wuhan Institute of Virology - he was quickly shut down by the lawyer who was interviewing him. Apparently it is "too divisive" and has been ruled out of their scope of enquiry. Sorry Govey but this enquiry is mainly concerned with tittle tattle - not facts. The whole purpose of this enquiry is to entirely discredit the Tory govt at the time of the Covid outbreak. Principally that means finally putting a wooden stake through Boris's heart - to prevent any chance of him resurrecting his career - and the same goes for Matt Hancock. They'll probably get onto Partygate soon - after all you can never hear too much about this - and Hancock's affair with a colleague. Will they ever mention that Neil Ferguson's model was a heap of shit and had got absolutely every prediction it ever made wrong? No of course not. And anyone who tries to talk about what actually started the outbreak - where the real blame lies - is going to be shut down immediately. This is not what it's about FFS. It would obviously be "racist" to blame the Chinese. And the WHO have exonerated them of all blame anyway.  And this bollocks is going to go on 4 more years. But I'll tell you now what the main conclusions will be. It was all Boris's fault and his government was a disaster. And they should have locked down earlier and harder. Everybody knew that. And Boris broke the rules and should be barred from public office in perpetuity. And they'll quietly ignore the fact that the country that didn't lock down at all emerged from the pandemic with the least amount of economic damage and the lowest excess deaths. Fucking wankers the legal profession. This shouldn't even be a legal enquiry that attempts to allocate blame. It should be an enquiry to try to plan for future pandemics by analysing what could have been done better. And the first bit of planning that should be done is to try to work out how to stop China (and America) messing about with dangerous viruses in shoddy laboratories. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2023 15:47:08 GMT
The enquiry seems to be being run by Zero Covid Zoe who was on Twitter. Complete nut jobs.
The same people are still pushing the jabs which neither immunise or stop transmission. The health service are making money by jabbing people who don't need it. (It's likely very few people need a jab which neither prevents transmission or infection) Especially when the latest variants are like a cold.
Lockdown for "3 weeks to flatten the curve".
But the infection rate curve was already falling and continued to fall at the same rate after lockdown so it had no effect.
But they doubled down and restrictions were in full force from March 23rd to May10th 2020.
You'd have thought they would learn, but another 9 weeks in early 2021.
Perhaps people have forgotten the stupidity of standing outside a supermarket in a line separated by markers 2 metres apart. Letting people in one at a time as another left. All subjugated wearing face coverings which also had no effect.
If anyone needs investigating it's the lockdown fanatics and zero Covid cultists who would have ruined the country in the false belief they were saving lives.
Sweden did well, but the government just would not listen. SAGE "scientists" were communists!
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 28, 2023 15:56:56 GMT
Another excuse to squander tax payers money.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 28, 2023 16:01:48 GMT
Another excuse to squander tax payers money. That's all the left are fit for mate. They hold the record for pissing tax payers money up the wall. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 28, 2023 16:10:09 GMT
Useless, like all of these inquiries.
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2023 16:47:03 GMT
Useless, like all of these inquiries. I don't see how it is useless when people are admitting mistakes made, and the inquiry is about avoiding mistakes when the next pandemic hits. |
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 28, 2023 16:48:28 GMT
Useless, like all of these inquiries. I would agree ,I don't think there has been one yet that has come to the conclusion we already knew it would before it started. This one though due to run until 2026 will come up with some right gems . |
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2023 16:49:01 GMT
Another excuse to squander tax payers money. That's all the left are fit for mate. They hold the record for pissing tax payers money up the wall. I do wonder why you insist on making a fool of yourself by posting yet another post full of nonsense. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 28, 2023 17:02:18 GMT
Useless, like all of these inquiries. I would agree ,I don't think there has been one yet that has come to the conclusion we already knew it would before it started. This one though due to run until 2026 will come up with some right gems . Exactly: Pointless exercises designed to come to a predetermined conclusion.
Obvious, expensive and boring.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 28, 2023 17:05:36 GMT
Thread Title has been edited by Moderator - please keep it civil.
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 29, 2023 8:03:08 GMT
Useless, like all of these inquiries. I don't see how it is useless when people are admitting mistakes made, and the inquiry is about avoiding mistakes when the next pandemic hits. Mistakes were made because we were dealing with a new virus - and a man-made one at that. So the biggest mistake made was to use Neil Ferguson's useless model that was designed for flu-type viruses (not Corona viruses) and which didn't even work for flu. It has vastly exaggerated the effects of every virus it has been used for. And the next big mistake that was made was not to realise earlier that the virus was infectious BEFORE people developed symptoms, which is unusual. This meant that lockdowns were not going to be very effective because by the time we knew people were infected the virus had already spread through the community. This also meant that "Track and Trace" was pointless - it only works if you catch epidemics very early. The next big mistake was to reject the "conspiracy theory" that the virus was created by "gain of function" in WIV. All the evidence was there from the moment that the virus was gene sequenced. But the WHO chose believe that it was created by a bat virus that had been mutated in an animal host - despite absolutely no animal host being found. This is important because viruses that mutated in an intermediate host tend not to be very infectious (SARS was a corona virus that evolved in an intermediate host). But Covid was specifically designed to be highly infectious to humans with a feature (Furin cleavage) that easily locks onto human lungs. These are the 3 most important mistakes made yet NONE of them have been mentioned in the enquiry - and never will be. The whole point of the enquiry is to pin the blame firmly on Boris's government. The fact is that absolutely nobody knew what they were doing - including self-important wankers like Valance. Everybody was guessing. The only genuine blame that can be allocated is to China - who have been messing about with Level 4 viruses in Level 2 laboratories for years. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 8:23:30 GMT
Useless, like all of these inquiries. I would agree ,I don't think there has been one yet that has come to the conclusion we already knew it would before it started. This one though due to run until 2026 will come up with some right gems . They also make recommendations going forward which governments can and do ignore. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 8:24:04 GMT
I would agree ,I don't think there has been one yet that has come to the conclusion we already knew it would before it started. This one though due to run until 2026 will come up with some right gems . Exactly: Pointless exercises designed to come to a predetermined conclusion.
Obvious, expensive and boring.
What predetermined conclusion is that? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Nov 29, 2023 8:52:53 GMT
Exactly: Pointless exercises designed to come to a predetermined conclusion.
Obvious, expensive and boring.
What predetermined conclusion is that? The predetermined conclusion is that Boris and his govt were useless and didn't lock down soon enough or long enough. And, of course, Boris spread Covid across the world by going to too many parties.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 9:51:00 GMT
What predetermined conclusion is that? The predetermined conclusion is that Boris and his govt were useless and didn't lock down soon enough or long enough. And, of course, Boris spread Covid across the world by going to too many parties. I think the country already knows that, we certainly don't need an enquiry to tell us. Why is it Johnson supporters always go to extremes, Johnson broke Covid rules and was fined, get over it. |
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And this bollocks is going to go on 4 more years. 
