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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 20:47:15 GMT
It is not a matter of whether or not someone aspires to marry a foreigner. That's just silly. People tend to marry those they have fallen in love with, and nationality has nothing to do with it. Proximity to someone you fall for and who falls for you is the decisive factor. We do not choose whom to fall in love with. It just happens. If a Brit works in Prague for 6 months and whilst there falls in love with and marries a local, it is outrageous that he cannot bring his wife here if he does not earn nearly £40k. This is a level of vindictiveness targeting poorer people for loving the wrong person. Any British person ought to have the right to have his wife and children living here with him Then we have not had a problem with marriage for cash or arranged marriages to get UK citizenship for some of an extended family. The problem is not with those who are honest Johns it is largely with those who have abused the system and that has been rife and the fallout is it impacts on others but that is the way the world works. I have to jump through hoops of identity to have bank accounts or National savings to stop some abusing the system. It is not fair of course but it is life. There have always been investigatory processes to ascertain such things. To ban legitimate spouses from even living in the same country as their British spouse is an affront to the dignity and freedoms of British people living here....but one from which the powers that be are themselves to be exempt., naturally. Double standards on a disgraceful scale. When your desire to satisfy your xenophobic impulses is more important to you than the rights of British people to have their spouses live with them, then you are beyond redemption and no words of mine will talk you out of your malice. |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 5, 2023 21:34:27 GMT
A good article about the way the British were conned by immigration and its relevance to a majority of people, of which contributed to an 80 seat majority for the Conservatives. You will also note in the article skilled labour, or salaries high enough to warrant a skilled working visa were "floral assistants, floral designer, floral arranger, cake decorator, Baker's assistant, Butcher's assistant, stable hand and kennel hand" I'm sorry, but if a floral assistant fell in love with Pete the Pole, it would be on her to support him - not the British state. And she can't do that on 8 quid an hour. "skilled visa" what a joke! www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/immigration-and-skilled-worker-visas-the-political-elite-are-taking-the-people-for-fools/ |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 5, 2023 22:24:34 GMT
Mod notice
I have just deleted 4 pages of pointless personal bickering - please try and keep it civil and on subject.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 6, 2023 8:00:39 GMT
A good article about the way the British were conned by immigration and its relevance to a majority of people, of which contributed to an 80 seat majority for the Conservatives. You will also note in the article skilled labour, or salaries high enough to warrant a skilled working visa were "floral assistants, floral designer, floral arranger, cake decorator, Baker's assistant, Butcher's assistant, stable hand and kennel hand" I'm sorry, but if a floral assistant fell in love with Pete the Pole, it would be on her to support him - not the British state. And she can't do that on 8 quid an hour. "skilled visa" what a joke! www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/immigration-and-skilled-worker-visas-the-political-elite-are-taking-the-people-for-fools/Very good article. Boris's 'get Brexit done' lie will become a historical joke. |
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Post by Orac on Dec 6, 2023 8:26:04 GMT
If the government says "We want to only to accept people with important skills", who fills in all that detail and turns it into a specific proposal to include florists?
The whole 'important skill' thing is 99% nonsense. We probably accept several thousand people a year with actually vital / important skills
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 6, 2023 8:44:18 GMT
Politicians like mass immigration because it gives the impression of economic growth without them having to do anything - that is why they were overwhelmingly in favour of EU membership and now want to continue with the same scheme.
The only way things will change is if the electorate hold their feet to the fire and force that change - luckily the electorate now has that power. The big question is whether they will use that power.
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 6, 2023 9:13:58 GMT
Is this why dappy is so outraged about the new regulations increasing the minimum income threshold for bringing in a foreign spouse/partner?
"...My kids are just as British and English as Dan’s or Sandy’s. If they have kids with their current partners living where they currently do , those kids will be British and English too even though 2 of 3 partners have overseas passports and 2 of 3 partners (not the same subset) do not have white skin. Dan and Sandy may reject those potential grandkids as English - well frankly who cares what a couple of old out of touch white supremacists think anyway. "
(from a Mind Zone thread earlier today)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2023 10:49:35 GMT
Is this why dappy is so outraged about the new regulations increasing the minimum income threshold for bringing in a foreign spouse/partner? "...My kids are just as British and English as Dan’s or Sandy’s. If they have kids with their current partners living where they currently do , those kids will be British and English too even though 2 of 3 partners have overseas passports and 2 of 3 partners (not the same subset) do not have white skin. Dan and Sandy may reject those potential grandkids as English - well frankly who cares what a couple of old out of touch white supremacists think anyway. " (from a Mind Zone thread earlier today) Being thick skinned comes with no reward on here. |
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Post by dappy on Dec 6, 2023 13:17:08 GMT
Is this why dappy is so outraged about the new regulations increasing the minimum income threshold for bringing in a foreign spouse/partner? "...My kids are just as British and English as Dan’s or Sandy’s. If they have kids with their current partners living where they currently do , those kids will be British and English too even though 2 of 3 partners have overseas passports and 2 of 3 partners (not the same subset) do not have white skin. Dan and Sandy may reject those potential grandkids as English - well frankly who cares what a couple of old out of touch white supremacists think anyway. " (from a Mind Zone thread earlier today) No Dan but thanks for your concern. I am rather touched. Both of my kids partners holding overseas passports live here on visas in their own right and as far as I know they are not currently planning to marry anyway. So no direct personal interest, but it does bring home I suppose just how callous the government is being here forcing our young kids in slightly different circumstances who happen to have fallen in love with a foreign passport holder to make a decision between abandoning the love of their life or being forced to leave their own country. If they were my kids I would be justifiably furious. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 6, 2023 13:52:15 GMT
Is this why dappy is so outraged about the new regulations increasing the minimum income threshold for bringing in a foreign spouse/partner? "...My kids are just as British and English as Dan’s or Sandy’s. If they have kids with their current partners living where they currently do , those kids will be British and English too even though 2 of 3 partners have overseas passports and 2 of 3 partners (not the same subset) do not have white skin. Dan and Sandy may reject those potential grandkids as English - well frankly who cares what a couple of old out of touch white supremacists think anyway. " (from a Mind Zone thread earlier today) No Dan but thanks for your concern. I am rather touched. Both of my kids partners holding overseas passports live here on visas in their own right and as far as I know they are not currently planning to marry anyway. So no direct personal interest, but it does bring home I suppose just how callous the government is being here forcing our young kids in slightly different circumstances who happen to have fallen in love with a foreign passport holder to make a decision between abandoning the love of their life or being forced to leave their own country. If they were my kids I would be justifiably furious. I always find it strange that foreign passport holders who fall in love, never want to live in their own country, they always want their passport love affair to end up in the UK. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 6, 2023 17:37:01 GMT
Politicians like mass immigration because it gives the impression of economic growth without them having to do anything - that is why they were overwhelmingly in favour of EU membership and now want to continue with the same scheme. The only way things will change is if the electorate hold their feet to the fire and force that change - luckily the electorate now has that power. The big question is whether they will use that power. YES! You've finally recognised that immigration is about short term tax receipts. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 6, 2023 17:38:00 GMT
Is this why dappy is so outraged about the new regulations increasing the minimum income threshold for bringing in a foreign spouse/partner? "...My kids are just as British and English as Dan’s or Sandy’s. If they have kids with their current partners living where they currently do , those kids will be British and English too even though 2 of 3 partners have overseas passports and 2 of 3 partners (not the same subset) do not have white skin. Dan and Sandy may reject those potential grandkids as English - well frankly who cares what a couple of old out of touch white supremacists think anyway. " (from a Mind Zone thread earlier today) Yes and? |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 6, 2023 17:39:31 GMT
No Dan but thanks for your concern. I am rather touched. Both of my kids partners holding overseas passports live here on visas in their own right and as far as I know they are not currently planning to marry anyway. So no direct personal interest, but it does bring home I suppose just how callous the government is being here forcing our young kids in slightly different circumstances who happen to have fallen in love with a foreign passport holder to make a decision between abandoning the love of their life or being forced to leave their own country. If they were my kids I would be justifiably furious. I always find it strange that foreign passport holders who fall in love, never want to live in their own country, they always want their passport love affair to end up in the UK. How would you know that? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Dec 6, 2023 17:47:46 GMT
I always find it strange that foreign passport holders who fall in love, never want to live in their own country, they always want their passport love affair to end up in the UK. How would you know that? Only a nincompoop would ask that question. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 6, 2023 17:49:54 GMT
Only a nincompoop would ask that question. By which you mean you have no idea how many Brits meet someone abroad and stay there with their love. |
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