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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 17:21:00 GMT
Only c 20% of UK Nationals under 35 - the age group most likely to be getting married - earn over £38,700. ... Assuming that is true and I note you haven't provided a source, how many Britons aspire to marry a foreigner anyway? Do you personally know of any?
I imagine it's a vanishingly small number.
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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 17:24:07 GMT
When I wrote 'vanishingly small' I had not been thinking of resident migrants wanting to bring in spouses/partners until Sheepy reminded me. That is probably who the new rules are intended for, rather than native Britons. A secondary target could be the sad types who want to import mail-order brides from abroad. I suspect That's exactly what it’s for. As usual lefties construct an emotional scenerio (out of romance novel )to try to dispute a pragmatic and sensible policy . The policy isn’t to stop Kevin marrying his senorita , it’s to stop migrants on low wages bringing in their family and increasing the tax burden . Kevin is a casualty of excessive immigration . Then why not exclude British citizens from the ruling. If there's so few of them. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 17:25:20 GMT
As noted earlier the principal targets of this legislation are probably not who you imagine they are. Just collateral damage eh |
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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 5, 2023 17:29:00 GMT
Yes probably.
I don't know why dappy's getting so het up about it, it's not likely to impact him or his is it? Or is it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 17:41:15 GMT
Only c 20% of UK Nationals under 35 - the age group most likely to be getting married - earn over £38,700. ... Assuming that is true and I note you haven't provided a source, how many Britons aspire to marry a foreigner anyway? Do you personally know of any?
I imagine it's a vanishingly small number.
It is not a matter of whether or not someone aspires to marry a foreigner. That's just silly. People tend to marry those they have fallen in love with, and nationality has nothing to do with it. Proximity to someone you fall for and who falls for you is the decisive factor. We do not choose whom to fall in love with. It just happens. If a Brit works in Prague for 6 months and whilst there falls in love with and marries a local, it is outrageous that he cannot bring his wife here if he does not earn nearly £40k. This is a level of vindictiveness targeting poorer people for loving the wrong person. Any British person ought to have the right to have his wife and children living here with him |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 17:43:06 GMT
I am sure you think of little else apart from "resident migrants", Dan. The policy achieves forcing roughly 80% of young Britons (of whatever ethnicity, colour of skin, sexuality, etc) to choose between abandoning the person they wish to marry and being FORCED to live abroad even if this is not what the couple desire. It really is shameful stuff. Very well said. But the bigots amongst us really do not give a shit about the feelings of others, only themselves. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 17:48:50 GMT
I suspect That's exactly what it’s for. As usual lefties construct an emotional scenerio (out of romance novel )to try to dispute a pragmatic and sensible policy . The policy isn’t to stop Kevin marrying his senorita , it’s to stop migrants on low wages bringing in their family and increasing the tax burden . Kevin is a casualty of excessive immigration . Then why not exclude British citizens from the ruling. If there's so few of them. Exactly. It is outrageous that if my boss and I both fall in love with, for example, a Latvian and get married, I cannot even have my wife live in my country with me, but my boss can simply because he earns more than me. It is grotesquely unfair and indeed cruel to any of our own people who should fall in love with a foreigner, except for the wealthiest 20 percent of course. Dosent affect them, no. Which of course means it doesn't affect Tory MPs, just the plebs that they and their supporters apparently hold in utter contempt. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 5, 2023 18:12:00 GMT
I suspect That's exactly what it’s for. As usual lefties construct an emotional scenerio (out of romance novel )to try to dispute a pragmatic and sensible policy . The policy isn’t to stop Kevin marrying his senorita , it’s to stop migrants on low wages bringing in their family and increasing the tax burden . Kevin is a casualty of excessive immigration . Then why not exclude British citizens from the ruling. If there's so few of them. So low paid British citizens should be allowed to bring in foreign spouses ? What next , should the taxpayer pay for the plane ticket ? |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 18:56:13 GMT
Yes probably. I don't know why dappy's getting so het up about it, it's not likely to impact him or his is it? Or is it? Some people care about others than themselves. I know, its a difficult concept. You should look it up. Or ask your friends about "Virtue signallers" I think that's their name for them. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 19:03:14 GMT
Then why not exclude British citizens from the ruling. If there's so few of them. So low paid British citizens should be allowed to bring in foreign spouses ? What next , should the taxpayer pay for the plane ticket ? No I don't think so. Perhaps to be fair the rich should be estranged from their foreign born wives as well. Sorry Rishi |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 5, 2023 19:33:47 GMT
So low paid British citizens should be allowed to bring in foreign spouses ? What next , should the taxpayer pay for the plane ticket ? No I don't think so. Perhaps to be fair the rich should be estranged from their foreign born wives as well. Sorry Rishi People earning £38,700.per year are rich now ? ffs.. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 19:38:45 GMT
No I don't think so. Perhaps to be fair the rich should be estranged from their foreign born wives as well. Sorry Rishi People earning £38,700.per year are rich now ? ffs.. Who said that. I mentioned Rishi, I think he earns a bit more than 38k. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 5, 2023 19:43:56 GMT
Assuming that is true and I note you haven't provided a source, how many Britons aspire to marry a foreigner anyway? Do you personally know of any?
I imagine it's a vanishingly small number.
It is not a matter of whether or not someone aspires to marry a foreigner. That's just silly. People tend to marry those they have fallen in love with, and nationality has nothing to do with it. Proximity to someone you fall for and who falls for you is the decisive factor. We do not choose whom to fall in love with. It just happens. If a Brit works in Prague for 6 months and whilst there falls in love with and marries a local, it is outrageous that he cannot bring his wife here if he does not earn nearly £40k. This is a level of vindictiveness targeting poorer people for loving the wrong person. Any British person ought to have the right to have his wife and children living here with him Then we have not had a problem with marriage for cash or arranged marriages to get UK citizenship for some of an extended family. The problem is not with those who are honest Johns it is largely with those who have abused the system and that has been rife and the fallout is it impacts on others but that is the way the world works. I have to jump through hoops of identity to have bank accounts or National savings to stop some abusing the system. It is not fair of course but it is life. |
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Post by zanygame on Dec 5, 2023 19:54:49 GMT
It is not a matter of whether or not someone aspires to marry a foreigner. That's just silly. People tend to marry those they have fallen in love with, and nationality has nothing to do with it. Proximity to someone you fall for and who falls for you is the decisive factor. We do not choose whom to fall in love with. It just happens. If a Brit works in Prague for 6 months and whilst there falls in love with and marries a local, it is outrageous that he cannot bring his wife here if he does not earn nearly £40k. This is a level of vindictiveness targeting poorer people for loving the wrong person. Any British person ought to have the right to have his wife and children living here with him Then we have not had a problem with marriage for cash or arranged marriages to get UK citizenship for some of an extended family. The problem is not with those who are honest Johns it is largely with those who have abused the system and that has been rife and the fallout is it impacts on others but that is the way the world works. I have to jump through hoops of identity to have bank accounts or National savings to stop some abusing the system. It is not fair of course but it is life. There are already significant measures to stop that happening. |
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Post by sandypine on Dec 5, 2023 19:57:02 GMT
Then we have not had a problem with marriage for cash or arranged marriages to get UK citizenship for some of an extended family. The problem is not with those who are honest Johns it is largely with those who have abused the system and that has been rife and the fallout is it impacts on others but that is the way the world works. I have to jump through hoops of identity to have bank accounts or National savings to stop some abusing the system. It is not fair of course but it is life. There are already significant measures to stop that happening. And this is another one. |
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