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Post by Dan Dare on Dec 4, 2023 22:48:53 GMT
The new threshold of £38,700 is scarcely more than the UK average wage so it seems eminently sensible to restrict anyone earning less than this quite modest sum from importing a foreign spouse/partner.
The only mystery is why this obvious and necessary measure wasn't introduced years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 22:59:43 GMT
The new threshold of £38,700 is scarcely more than the UK average wage so it seems eminently sensible to restrict anyone earning less than this quite modest sum from importing a foreign spouse/partner. The only mystery is why this obvious and necessary measure wasn't introduced years ago. Have a look at the link of current skills shortages, there's hardly a job that is close to £38,700 If a residential care manager with experience cannot bring their husband or wife, they wont come, its that simple. They can go elsewhere - another country such as France, where they can bring their husband or wife. www.gov.uk/government/publications/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations/skilled-worker-visa-shortage-occupations |
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Post by dappy on Dec 4, 2023 23:01:50 GMT
As you used Spain as an example then Spanish immigration policy is relevant Well it really isnt as we are talking about UK immigration policy. But if you insist, Spanish immigration policy allows UK husbands to live in Spain with their Spanish national wives. They are quite civilised there |
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Post by buccaneer on Dec 4, 2023 23:05:18 GMT
Typical outrage from those who want all and sundry to have an entitlement to live in the UK.
It's a non-story. Just outrage from the usual suspects.
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Post by dappy on Dec 4, 2023 23:06:30 GMT
The new threshold of £38,700 is scarcely more than the UK average wage so it seems eminently sensible to restrict anyone earning less than this quite modest sum from importing a foreign spouse/partner. The only mystery is why this obvious and necessary measure wasn't introduced years ago. Only c 20% of UK Nationals under 35 - the age group most likely to be getting married - earn over £38,700. For the vast majority, they are now not allowed to bring their Spanish national wives to live with them in the UK. As I say I think that is shameful Bentley is so shocked at the policy that he is desperately trying to deny the reality that is what our government has done. You think that most British people should be banned from living with their spanish wife in their own country. That's fine, you should vote for this government (well if you lived in the country of course....) Hopefully the majority of decent peope will be so disgusted they vote them out at the earliest opportunity. |
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 23:11:27 GMT
As you used Spain as an example then Spanish immigration policy is relevant Well it really isnt as we are talking about UK immigration policy. But if you insist, Spanish immigration policy allows UK husbands to live in Spain with their Spanish national wives. They are quite civilised there Problem solved 👍 |
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Post by dappy on Dec 4, 2023 23:13:47 GMT
So you are now saying, having finally accepted reality of what this shameful government has done, that the British citizen should be forced to leave his own country in order to live with his wife and it not be allowed for the two of them to live together in this country.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 23:20:14 GMT
So you are now saying, having finally accepted reality of what this shameful government has done, that the British citizen should be forced to leave his own country in order to live with his wife and it not be allowed for the two of them to live together in this country. It’s an option for those who cannot afford to look after their dependents. £18,600 is woefully short. £38,700 means the taxpayer might not be burdened with someone’s else’s love story. |
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Post by dappy on Dec 4, 2023 23:25:21 GMT
You are excluding 80% of British people under 35 from living with their spouses if their spouses happen to be say Spanish. Now you have finally accepted the reality of what this government is doing - a reality you earlier couldn't quite believe is true - you seem to be trying to argue that it is reasonable. What a horrible country you aspire too.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 23:32:40 GMT
You are excluding 80% of British people under 35 from living with their spouses if their spouses happen to be say Spanish. Now you have finally accepted the reality of what this government is doing - a reality you earlier couldn't quite believe is true - you seem to be trying to argue that it is reasonable. What a horrible country you aspire too. Stop lying . I never said that I couldn’t believe it . I merely didn’t accept your ‘ go figure ‘ answer . £18600 is not enough to support a family . The government is correct . Maybe the English nationals would have been earning more if their wages were not suppressed for so many years by imported cheap labour . Instead of allowing low wage earners to bring in spouses that they can’t afford , maybe they can be retrained as care workers on a higher Salary . |
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Post by dappy on Dec 4, 2023 23:36:58 GMT
You are panicking now.
The Governments disgraceful policy now says that you have to earn over £38k (putting you in the top 20% of under 35yo) to be able to live with your wife in your own country.
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 23:46:10 GMT
You are panicking now. The Governments disgraceful policy now says that you have to earn over £38k (putting you in the top 20% of under 35yo) to be able to live with your wife in your own country. I know . It’s a wise move . I think it’s you that’s panicking. If only we never had millions of East European migrants over the years that suppressed wages eh? |
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Post by dappy on Dec 4, 2023 23:49:09 GMT
You are entitled to think that forcing most UK citizens marrying people from overseas to leave the country is OK.
It’s not the country I wish to live in
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Post by Bentley on Dec 4, 2023 23:51:27 GMT
You are entitled to think that forcing most UK citizens marrying people from overseas to leave the country is OK. It’s not the country I wish to live in The more you post , the more you justify my point that the UK should not base its immigration policy on romantic stories . |
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Post by dappy on Dec 5, 2023 0:25:19 GMT
Now you understand the policy, we have established our point of disagreement.
I think it is outrageous that a British man , say 30 years old, is to be banned from living in his own country with his, say, Spanish wife unless he is in the top 20% of earners for his age.
You think that is fine indeed desirable
we are each entitled to our opinion
That’s cool
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