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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 14:55:27 GMT
Good . Now look up some references on diet plans . You might realise that what you eat is a major cause for weight gain . I have never said that being 'fat' is entirely due to other reasons. Eating a poor diet is a major factor but it is also the cheap. A bad diet from a young age can indeed lead to weight disorders in later life. You mentioned 'diet', something that some people do when the problem is bad or because they have a propensity to gain weight. "A second on the lips, a lifetime on the hips" is quite a pertinent point here. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 15:03:44 GMT
Good . Now look up some references on diet plans . You might realise that what you eat is a major cause for weight gain . I have never said that being 'fat' is entirely due to other reasons. Eating a poor diet is a major factor but it is also the cheap. A bad diet from a young age can indeed lead to weight disorders in later life. You mentioned 'diet', something that some people do when the problem is bad or because they have a propensity to gain weight. "A second on the lips, a lifetime on the hips" is quite a pertinent point here. No. A diet is a life for people who are fat. The ones that do not realise this either stay fat or yo yo. |
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Post by om15 on Nov 12, 2022 17:40:09 GMT
They may well be proposing to go on strike in order for the tax payers to give them more money, but as a tax payer I am conscious that the nurses, for example, are currently on a better deal than many people, a newly qualified nurse is on c£22K and this rises with experience to c£55K, added to this they have enviable pension provisions.
I understand that the average salary for a nurse is in the region of £34K, this is a typical salary of an Army Corporal, about £4K more than a qualified vehicle technician, and about the same salary as a medium grade school teacher.
17% claim is not reasonable, their unions are out to pick a fight with the Government, I hope they get a bloody nose.
The NHS represents the worst of the nationalised industries and the NHS workers might think they are in a powerful position, but there again so did the coal miners 40 years ago.
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Post by zanygame on Nov 12, 2022 17:42:08 GMT
Well I have never seen someone queuing for food in Somalia who is fat. So either they don't suffer from medical conditions that precipitate weight gain, or they can't get enough to eat. I know which one I believe. Well you can choose many fitting descriptions, but I find it sad that we think it Ok for some people not to get basic necessities in the UK. That to justify this we still pretend they all smoke and have Sky TV rather than slightly reduce our own opulent wealth to help them. How does the song go. For you and me its just another day in paradise. Bit weak comparing Somalia to the UK. Maybe when people look like skeletons you will decide there 'may' be a problem. linkRather depends why I linked them. If it was to compare then you would be right, but it wasn't. It was to demonstrate that people who do not have enough to eat are not fat even if they have an eating disorder, which is what you seemed to be claiming. Using daft exaggerations like skeletons changes nothing. We are not discussing slim people who might well have skipped many meals to feed their kids, we are discussing obese people who clearly haven't. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 17:49:28 GMT
Bit weak comparing Somalia to the UK. Maybe when people look like skeletons you will decide there 'may' be a problem. linkRather depends why I linked them. If it was to compare then you would be right, but it wasn't. It was to demonstrate that people who do not have enough to eat are not fat even if they have an eating disorder, which is what you seemed to be claiming. Using daft exaggerations like skeletons changes nothing. We are not discussing slim people who might well have skipped many meals to feed their kids, we are discussing obese people who clearly haven't. Did you not read the 'obesity in Somalia' bit? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 17:51:37 GMT
I have never said that being 'fat' is entirely due to other reasons. Eating a poor diet is a major factor but it is also the cheap. A bad diet from a young age can indeed lead to weight disorders in later life. You mentioned 'diet', something that some people do when the problem is bad or because they have a propensity to gain weight. "A second on the lips, a lifetime on the hips" is quite a pertinent point here. No. A diet is a life for people who are fat. The ones that do not realise this either stay fat or yo yo. As I said a nit-picker. Do you not understand the term 'eating disorder'. |
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Post by sheepy on Nov 12, 2022 17:54:14 GMT
No. A diet is a life for people who are fat. The ones that do not realise this either stay fat or yo yo. As I said a nit-picker. Do you not understand the term 'eating disorder'. I don't even think it was serious point, purely a piss take, which it seems you feel the need to find a reason for it. |
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 17:59:48 GMT
No. A diet is a life for people who are fat. The ones that do not realise this either stay fat or yo yo. As I said a nit-picker. Do you not understand the term 'eating disorder'. If I’m a nit picker then you are a bullshitter. Eating too much isn’t an eating disorder. |
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 13, 2022 3:21:15 GMT
Yet nowhere in the world does it work like that... The countries with the best public services also have the highest tax burdens (on everybody). Your fairytale "tax the rich" bollocks doesn't work anywhere in the world. Unless you would like to correct me and name a country where it does? Just look at your stupid non-dom idea, they would just live here x amount of days and then you would lose the tax on their UK earnings too lol. Do you actually understand what non-dom is??? It is not a tax dodge, it is deciding WHERE you pay tax on FOREIGN income. No serious economist backs up the £3b Labour claim. They all say the same thing, these very wealthy people will simply live somewhere else rather than risk double taxation. Is it really a fairy-tale or something we have been told for so long by the wealthy that most people believe it. For every 'economist' that dismisses non-dom status being scrapped there is one that backs the idea. They don't want to scrap non-dom to raise income, they are doing it for ideologic reason, and quite frankly it is straying into populism. They have spun non-dom stand for tax evasion, and the ignorant majority fall for it hook line and sinker. Again, do you think these wealthy people are going to accept being taxed on their international earnings twice? It won't raise fuck up, it is just populist bollocks, designed to appeal to the uneducated. Also, again, name ONE country that works the way you have described low taxes for the majority, high taxes for the rich. I can tell you with 100% certainty that all the best ranked places to live have high taxes for everybody. |
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Post by dodgydave on Nov 13, 2022 3:39:44 GMT
It's all politically motivated, it's a well known fact the Unions (Labour) are behind all this. They know Starmer isn't going to be the next Prime Minister, because he has no personality, no policies, no nothing to offer to voters, so the Unions are working hard behind the scenes trying to bring down the Tories using dirty tactics, not just a coincidence that all those striking just happen to have hardcore Labour Unions backing them up. Huh? The Unions all hate Starmer because he is a populist with no convictions. Many don't even send money to Labour anymore. I work for Royal Mail. The CEO, presumably emboldened by P&O, decided he was going to bypass the CWU and just impose a 2% pay rise and make massive changes to the terms and conditions. He then spent the next 6 months not showing up to agreed talks, and mocking the union on social media. Your postman is going to be starting at noon and finishing at 7pm, and will be working Sundays at normal rate... for 20% less money!! He will never be paid any overtime because he will be sent home when it is quiet, and then forced to work extra days when it is busy. If he gets sick he will be on SSP, and if he goes on long-term sickness he will be fired. So please, please, explain to me how the CWU strikes are an anti-Tory plot, and not workers trying to defend their term and conditions? |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2022 8:00:53 GMT
Rather depends why I linked them. If it was to compare then you would be right, but it wasn't. It was to demonstrate that people who do not have enough to eat are not fat even if they have an eating disorder, which is what you seemed to be claiming. Using daft exaggerations like skeletons changes nothing. We are not discussing slim people who might well have skipped many meals to feed their kids, we are discussing obese people who clearly haven't. Did you not read the 'obesity in Somalia' bit? Yes. It said leading up to the 2016 drought female obesity grew from 5.6 to 12.3%. for comparison that figure is 61% in the UK. For obvious reasons the article did not give any figures for BMI in women arriving at refugee camps because they are unable to feed their children. Which somewhat made my point which was, of course women in Somalia can have eating disorders and get fat, but women in Somalia who cannot afford to feed their children are not fat. Whereas women in the UK claiming they have skipped meals so their children can eat are. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2022 8:23:53 GMT
Did you not read the 'obesity in Somalia' bit? Yes. It said leading up to the 2016 drought female obesity grew from 5.6 to 12.3%. for comparison that figure is 61% in the UK. For obvious reasons the article did not give any figures for BMI in women arriving at refugee camps because they are unable to feed their children. Which somewhat made my point which was, of course women in Somalia can have eating disorders and get fat, but women in Somalia who cannot afford to feed their children are not fat. Whereas women in the UK claiming they have skipped meals so their children can eat are. And that comes back, full circle, to the impossibility of comparing a country like Somalia to the UK. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2022 8:35:55 GMT
Yes. It said leading up to the 2016 drought female obesity grew from 5.6 to 12.3%. for comparison that figure is 61% in the UK. For obvious reasons the article did not give any figures for BMI in women arriving at refugee camps because they are unable to feed their children. Which somewhat made my point which was, of course women in Somalia can have eating disorders and get fat, but women in Somalia who cannot afford to feed their children are not fat. Whereas women in the UK claiming they have skipped meals so their children can eat are. And that comes back, full circle, to the impossibility of comparing a country like Somalia to the UK. Well of course. Which is why I didn't. I compared two groups of women both claiming they could not afford to feed their children and both claiming to have skipped meals. I'm not going to argue this with you any further as its so obvious that if you intake less food you get thinner regardless of what metabolic malfunctions you might have. The basic laws on the conservation of energy rule this. There are a very small number of people with a condition where they lay down fat even when their body requires that energy, but these would become seriously ill if they skipped meals, so they are not the ones claiming to have done so. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 13, 2022 10:03:31 GMT
It's all politically motivated, it's a well known fact the Unions (Labour) are behind all this. They know Starmer isn't going to be the next Prime Minister, because he has no personality, no policies, no nothing to offer to voters, so the Unions are working hard behind the scenes trying to bring down the Tories using dirty tactics, not just a coincidence that all those striking just happen to have hardcore Labour Unions backing them up. Huh? The Unions all hate Starmer because he is a populist with no convictions. Many don't even send money to Labour anymore. I work for Royal Mail. The CEO, presumably emboldened by P&O, decided he was going to bypass the CWU and just impose a 2% pay rise and make massive changes to the terms and conditions. He then spent the next 6 months not showing up to agreed talks, and mocking the union on social media. Your postman is going to be starting at noon and finishing at 7pm, and will be working Sundays at normal rate... for 20% less money!! He will never be paid any overtime because he will be sent home when it is quiet, and then forced to work extra days when it is busy. If he gets sick he will be on SSP, and if he goes on long-term sickness he will be fired. So please, please, explain to me how the CWU strikes are an anti-Tory plot, and not workers trying to defend their term and conditions? It's the loony left, you'd have to be pretty naive not to know the NHS, civil servants/public sector workers are in the main Labour supporters, the police are actively being inactive tackling the Eco mob and crime, and if you don't think it's making a political statement then more fool you. The Unions are Labour supporters irrespective who is the leader. |
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Post by zanygame on Nov 13, 2022 10:16:47 GMT
Huh? The Unions all hate Starmer because he is a populist with no convictions. Many don't even send money to Labour anymore. I work for Royal Mail. The CEO, presumably emboldened by P&O, decided he was going to bypass the CWU and just impose a 2% pay rise and make massive changes to the terms and conditions. He then spent the next 6 months not showing up to agreed talks, and mocking the union on social media. Your postman is going to be starting at noon and finishing at 7pm, and will be working Sundays at normal rate... for 20% less money!! He will never be paid any overtime because he will be sent home when it is quiet, and then forced to work extra days when it is busy. If he gets sick he will be on SSP, and if he goes on long-term sickness he will be fired. So please, please, explain to me how the CWU strikes are an anti-Tory plot, and not workers trying to defend their term and conditions? It's the loony left, you'd have to be pretty naive not to know the NHS, civil servants/public sector workers are in the main Labour supporters, the police are actively being inactive tackling the Eco mob and crime, and if you don't think it's making a political statement then more fool you. The Unions are Labour supporters irrespective who is the leader. Just when you think there's a shortage of conspiracies... |
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