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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 13:09:45 GMT
Someone who is 16 stone may quite well have some medical condition that precipitates weight gain. Do you seriously think that a person who looked in the mirror in the morning and saw her/his 'bulk' would claim, in a national arena, that they could not afford to eat? Is it really the case that in the 6th richest country in the world we are defining hunger by some of the terrible scenes in WWII? Well I have never seen someone queuing for food in Somalia who is fat. So either they don't suffer from medical conditions that precipitate weight gain, or they can't get enough to eat. I know which one I believe. Well you can choose many fitting descriptions, but I find it sad that we think it Ok for some people not to get basic necessities in the UK. That to justify this we still pretend they all smoke and have Sky TV rather than slightly reduce our own opulent wealth to help them. How does the song go. For you and me its just another day in paradise. Bit weak comparing Somalia to the UK. Maybe when people look like skeletons you will decide there 'may' be a problem. link
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 13:11:01 GMT
Why is it idiotic to point out that if the wealthiest paid the correct taxes, non-dom status was scrapped, the Tories stopped giving money to their mates, Tory doners were made to pay back the billions the government has given them, parliament did not have subsidised meals and wine, stopped giving giveaways to big business, stopped funding private businesses, dealt with offshore criminality, cash for peerages stopped, got out of the pockets of the Russians....? There would be plenty of money for a decent wage rise for the workers. Because you never said it . You simply stated ( after some prompting and in stages ) that everyone should have a large pay rise without posting anything to support your claim or refute the obvious ie that it would result in a huge increase in government spending resulting in higher tax and/ or borrowing, higher prices and high inflation . What?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 13:14:27 GMT
Someone who is 16 stone may quite well have some medical condition that precipitates weight gain. Do you seriously think that a person who looked in the mirror in the morning and saw her/his 'bulk' would claim, in a national arena, that they could not afford to eat? Is it really the case that in the 6th richest country in the world we are defining hunger by some of the terrible scenes in WWII? The idea that people can’t overeat ( which you claimed in an earlier post ) or that people can be obese without either overeating or eating the wrong diet is childish bollocks . As pointed out , where there is real hunger there are no fat people but in a less extreme case but businesses such as ‘ slimming world’ refute this hundreds of thousands of times per week . I did not claim they could not overeat I said they would be sick if they did, unless of course they have an eating disorder. I gave plenty of example of why people can be obese without 'overeating'. Physiological influences Food intake and eating disorders Weight history Hereditary Unhealthy diet Sedentary lifestyle Drugs like steroid hormones and Drugs used to treat psychiatric conditions Pregnancy Lack of sleep Quitting smoking
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 12, 2022 13:15:10 GMT
It's all politically motivated, it's a well known fact the Unions (Labour) are behind all this.
They know Starmer isn't going to be the next Prime Minister, because he has no personality, no policies, no nothing to offer to voters, so the Unions are working hard behind the scenes trying to bring down the Tories using dirty tactics, not just a coincidence that all those striking just happen to have hardcore Labour Unions backing them up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 13:17:37 GMT
It's all politically motivated, it's a well known fact the Unions (Labour) are behind all this. They know Starmer isn't going to be the next Prime Minister, because he has no personality, no policies, no nothing to offer to voters, so the Unions are working hard behind the scenes trying to bring down the Tories using dirty tactics, not just a coincidence that all those striking just happen to have hardcore Labour Unions backing them up. Rubbish. If he has 'no nothing' then he must have something. People are on strike for better wages and conditions. What dirty tricks, please elucidate.
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 12, 2022 13:22:38 GMT
It's all politically motivated, it's a well known fact the Unions (Labour) are behind all this. They know Starmer isn't going to be the next Prime Minister, because he has no personality, no policies, no nothing to offer to voters, so the Unions are working hard behind the scenes trying to bring down the Tories using dirty tactics, not just a coincidence that all those striking just happen to have hardcore Labour Unions backing them up. Rubbish. If he has 'no nothing' then he must have something. People are on strike for better wages and conditions. What dirty tricks, please elucidate. Do I need to state the obvious and tell you not to put your hand in the fire or you will get burnt?
Some times You don't always have to explain things, when they are blatantly obvious.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 13:33:56 GMT
The idea that people can’t overeat ( which you claimed in an earlier post ) or that people can be obese without either overeating or eating the wrong diet is childish bollocks . As pointed out , where there is real hunger there are no fat people but in a less extreme case but businesses such as ‘ slimming world’ refute this hundreds of thousands of times per week . I did not claim they could not overeat I said they would be sick if they did, unless of course they have an eating disorder. I gave plenty of example of why people can be obese without 'overeating'. Physiological influences Food intake and eating disorders Weight history Hereditary Unhealthy diet Sedentary lifestyle Drugs like steroid hormones and Drugs used to treat psychiatric conditions Pregnancy Lack of sleep Quitting smoking If they were sick then the food couldn’t be assimilated . So you are saying that they can’t overeat . Many of your examples are effectively overeating or eating the wrong diet. Your attempt to refute my post actually supports it .
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 13:34:45 GMT
Because you never said it . You simply stated ( after some prompting and in stages ) that everyone should have a large pay rise without posting anything to support your claim or refute the obvious ie that it would result in a huge increase in government spending resulting in higher tax and/ or borrowing, higher prices and high inflation . What? Translation . Bentley is correct .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 13:49:45 GMT
Rubbish. If he has 'no nothing' then he must have something. People are on strike for better wages and conditions. What dirty tricks, please elucidate. Do I need to state the obvious and tell you not to put your hand in the fire or you will get burnt?
Some times You don't always have to explain things, when they are blatantly obvious.
Sometimes what is blatantly obvious to a biased mind is not blatantly obvious to 'normal' people.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 13:52:12 GMT
I did not claim they could not overeat I said they would be sick if they did, unless of course they have an eating disorder. I gave plenty of example of why people can be obese without 'overeating'. Physiological influences Food intake and eating disorders Weight history Hereditary Unhealthy diet Sedentary lifestyle Drugs like steroid hormones and Drugs used to treat psychiatric conditions Pregnancy Lack of sleep Quitting smoking If they were sick then the food couldn’t be assimilated . So you are saying that they can’t overeat . Many of your examples are effectively overeating or eating the wrong diet. Your attempt to refute my post actually supports it . Of course they are, many eating disorder 'allow' the body to 'absorb', not assimilate, food when the body limit has been reached, that's why they are called eating disorder.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 13:57:41 GMT
If they were sick then the food couldn’t be assimilated . So you are saying that they can’t overeat . Many of your examples are effectively overeating or eating the wrong diet. Your attempt to refute my post actually supports it . Of course they are, many eating disorder 'allow' the body to 'absorb', not assimilate, food when the body limit has been reached, that's why they are called eating disorder. Your body doesn’t ‘ absorb’ food, that’s total bollocks . All food is processed in the digestive system. If you dont take in the calories then you don’t get fat . Water retention is not getting fat .
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 14:22:14 GMT
Of course they are, many eating disorder 'allow' the body to 'absorb', not assimilate, food when the body limit has been reached, that's why they are called eating disorder. Your body doesn’t ‘ absorb’ food, that’s total bollocks . All food is processed in the digestive system. If you dont take in the calories then you don’t get fat . Water retention is not getting fat . Digestion is important because your body needs nutrients from food and drink to work properly and stay healthy. Proteins, fats, carbohydrates, vitamins NIH external link, minerals NIH external link, and water are nutrients. Your digestive system breaks nutrients into parts small enough for your body to absorb and use for energy, growth, and cell repair.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 14:30:51 GMT
Your body doesn’t ‘ absorb’ food, that’s total bollocks . All food is processed in the digestive system. If you dont take in the calories then you don’t get fat . Water retention is not getting fat . Digestion is important because your body needs nutrients from food and drink to work properly and stay healthy. Proteins, fats, carbohydrates, vitamins NIH external link, minerals NIH external link, and water are nutrients. Your digestive system breaks nutrients into parts small enough for your body to absorb and use for energy, growth, and cell repair. Was that cut and pasted from ‘ Nutrition for dummies ‘?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2022 14:42:52 GMT
Digestion is important because your body needs nutrients from food and drink to work properly and stay healthy. Proteins, fats, carbohydrates, vitamins NIH external link, minerals NIH external link, and water are nutrients. Your digestive system breaks nutrients into parts small enough for your body to absorb and use for energy, growth, and cell repair. Was that cut and pasted from ‘ Nutrition for dummies ‘? Yup.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 12, 2022 14:45:06 GMT
Was that cut and pasted from ‘ Nutrition for dummies ‘? Yup. Good . Now look up some references on diet plans . You might realise that what you eat is a major cause for weight gain .
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