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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2023 8:02:39 GMT
Deeply disrespectful to armistice is your opinion rather than a fact. Many disagree with you, and even point out that wanting the killing to be stopped is entirely appropriate.
You fail to distinguish between English and British again in your post above, and swerved my point again in your reply to me.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 8:28:23 GMT
Deeply disrespectful to armistice is your opinion rather than a fact. Many disagree with you, and even point out that wanting the killing to be stopped is entirely appropriate. You fail to distinguish between English and British again in your post above, and swerved my point again in your reply to me. Well I think it's undeniable that most if not all of those who turned up on Saturday to defend our war memorials and monuments were English - but I will stick to calling them British if you prefer. Well if you believe that desecrating war memorials on the 11th November is entirely appropriate and respectful then obviously we have very different opinions. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2023 8:37:12 GMT
No I don't and no they didn't.
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Post by wapentake on Nov 15, 2023 10:31:19 GMT
I'm beginning to wonder if Pacifico yearns for the EDL? Disorderly is OK? Tick. English rather than British at a British ceremony? Tick... Failure to ban the deeply disrespectful protest on Armistice Day triggered a few hundred young white, working-class men to travel to London. If their capital and its monuments are not going to be defended by the police, then the people have to defend them themselves. It shouldn’t have gone ahead but the met didn’t have the powers to stop it under the law as it stands the met chief said and govt didn’t either. The Palestinian protestors made no attempt to go to the ceremony that day. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 11:46:57 GMT
No I don't and no they didn't. Look - I totally agree with you that it is a matter of opinion. I believe desecrating War Memorials is deeply disrespectful and you don't - fair enough. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 15, 2023 12:48:06 GMT
No I don't and no they didn't. Look - I totally agree with you that it is a matter of opinion. I believe desecrating War Memorials is deeply disrespectful and you don't - fair enough. You've actually quoted me saying that that it's not acceptable, why have you said that I said it is? I don't know whether you've made a misunderstanding of what I wrote, or whether you are just lying to provoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 14:05:37 GMT
Because they were not violent unlike the right wing mob were and had to be dealt with. It is standard practice especially in a large gathering to 'identify' and video those they suspect of 'disorder' and deal with them later, that cannot be done with a baying mob. The two protests were independently policed, therefore there were more than enough cops on the anti Israel protest to immediately arrest and remove such lawbreakers from the crowd . Instead we are treated to photos of idle cops( inadvisably according to Scotland Yard but they wont be sacked or disciplined) having their pics taken with a fully masked anti Israel protest attending child done up up like mini terrorists and others idly passing the time of day with those anti protesters on an obstructing sit in instead of doing their job and simply dragging them out of the way by their hair if necessary The arrests were made because the right wing thugs were being violent, simple really. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2023 15:00:44 GMT
So the manufactured crisis has passed. Let’s reflect on the damage done. Even the police have confirmed that the rhetoric from the Government last week resulted in drunken and drugged up “right wing” thugs roaming London’s streets looking for a fight... For balance, you seem to have overlooked the 100 plus pro-Hamas "Protesters" detained for making anti-Semitic chants and launching fireworks at the police. I wonder why? He loves Hamas and hates England? It's a common theme amongst the Marxist IRA lot. |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 18:06:15 GMT
Look - I totally agree with you that it is a matter of opinion. I believe desecrating War Memorials is deeply disrespectful and you don't - fair enough. You've actually quoted me saying that that it's not acceptable, why have you said that I said it is? I don't know whether you've made a misunderstanding of what I wrote, or whether you are just lying to provoke. If you dont believe desecrating war memorials is disrespectful what are you arguing about?. You said: "Deeply disrespectful to armistice is your opinion rather than a fact." - either you have a different opinion or you agree. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 16, 2023 1:23:11 GMT
You've actually quoted me saying that that it's not acceptable, why have you said that I said it is? I don't know whether you've made a misunderstanding of what I wrote, or whether you are just lying to provoke. If you dont believe desecrating war memorials is disrespectful what are you arguing about?. You said: "Deeply disrespectful to armistice is your opinion rather than a fact." - either you have a different opinion or you agree. Having a March for a ceasefire which does not go anywhere near the cenotaph is not desocrating war memorials is it? That's neither a fact nor an opinion. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 16, 2023 7:26:12 GMT
The two protests were independently policed, therefore there were more than enough cops on the anti Israel protest to immediately arrest and remove such lawbreakers from the crowd . Instead we are treated to photos of idle cops( inadvisably according to Scotland Yard but they wont be sacked or disciplined) having their pics taken with a fully masked anti Israel protest attending child done up up like mini terrorists and others idly passing the time of day with those anti protesters on an obstructing sit in instead of doing their job and simply dragging them out of the way by their hair if necessary The arrests were made because the right wing thugs were being violent, simple really. Who says they were right wing? |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 7:42:51 GMT
If you dont believe desecrating war memorials is disrespectful what are you arguing about?. You said: "Deeply disrespectful to armistice is your opinion rather than a fact." - either you have a different opinion or you agree. Having a March for a ceasefire which does not go anywhere near the cenotaph is not desocrating war memorials is it? That's neither a fact nor an opinion. The Cenotaph is not the only war memorial in London - while the Police were getting exercised at stopping a few lads getting to the Cenotaph the hate marchers were desecrating other war memorials. So is the behaviour of these marchers deeply disrespectful or not? |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 7:48:25 GMT
..and again last night - the scum are on the streets.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2023 10:36:54 GMT
When Baghdad fell, the first thing to get toppled was a statue of Saddam Hussein.
When these protestors climb our monuments with their flags, what is in their minds? It's a symbol of conquering the area, which the police say is disrespectful, but not against the law.
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 16, 2023 11:59:22 GMT
When Baghdad fell, the first thing to get toppled was a statue of Saddam Hussein. When these protestors climb our monuments with their flags, what is in their minds? It's a symbol of conquering the area, which the police say is disrespectful, but not against the law.
On Saturday people, who had actually done nothing wrong, were arrested to " prevent a breach of the peace". Now the Met is saying they can't arrest people crawling all over a war memorial. Yet another example where Braverman was correct. |
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