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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 13, 2023 10:38:12 GMT
Facts? What you mean like throwing bottles at the police and attacking them is behaving totally properly,you have a warped view of what is acceptable behaviour and breaking through police lines is ok.Why would the Police try and stop Englishmen from getting to the Cenotaph on the 11th November to pay their respects? - that is not acceptable. So those that broke through the police barricade were better behaved than those who didn't? 🤔 I also note your use of "English" rather than "British", not for the first time in this thread. Interesting. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 13, 2023 11:01:49 GMT
So why weren't they dragged out of the protest and immediately arrested instead of being allowed to carry on with their hate on the streets? What? My question was "Is it illegal to compare Israel to the Nazis? If Israel could be compared to the National Socialist German Workers Party (it can't), all of them would be slaughtering Palestinians for the sake of slaughter. Israel does a lot for the Palestinians. |
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Post by ratcliff on Nov 13, 2023 12:51:48 GMT
Perhaps you didn't notice the Israeli Star of David made into a Nazi swastika. That could constitute a hate crime. You will always get some protesters being a bit silly. That could, as you say, constitute a hate crime, let's see if it gets to a court, methinks not. Why then were they not arrested immediately , taken to a police station , ID checked and confirmed , bailed /charged and left to a court appearance , if , as you claim , the police are even handed in handling protests ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 14:09:49 GMT
No, anyone causing trouble, inciting violence or acting violently should be sought out and arrested. Why would you think I would think differently to that? You are attempting and failing miserably, to create a division in my reasoning. You, capable of reasoning?  It's great when you start attempting to insult, it means you have no valid point. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 13, 2023 14:11:57 GMT
The irony! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 14:12:35 GMT
What? My question was "Is it illegal to compare Israel to the Nazis? If Israel could be compared to the National Socialist German Workers Party (it can't), all of them would be slaughtering Palestinians for the sake of slaughter. Israel does a lot for the Palestinians. You idea or point that 'all Germans were slaughtering Jews' is nonsensical. A lot of Germans did a lot for Jewish people even to the point of death. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 14:14:56 GMT
You will always get some protesters being a bit silly. That could, as you say, constitute a hate crime, let's see if it gets to a court, methinks not. Why then were they not arrested immediately , taken to a police station , ID checked and confirmed , bailed /charged and left to a court appearance , if , as you claim , the police are even handed in handling protests ? Because they were not violent unlike the right wing mob were and had to be dealt with. It is standard practice especially in a large gathering to 'identify' and video those they suspect of 'disorder' and deal with them later, that cannot be done with a baying mob. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2023 14:15:21 GMT
The irony! Point proved, methinks. |
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Post by Vinny on Nov 13, 2023 14:38:55 GMT
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Post by ratcliff on Nov 13, 2023 15:44:30 GMT
Why then were they not arrested immediately , taken to a police station , ID checked and confirmed , bailed /charged and left to a court appearance , if , as you claim , the police are even handed in handling protests ? Because they were not violent unlike the right wing mob were and had to be dealt with. It is standard practice especially in a large gathering to 'identify' and video those they suspect of 'disorder' and deal with them later, that cannot be done with a baying mob. The two protests were independently policed, therefore there were more than enough cops on the anti Israel protest to immediately arrest and remove such lawbreakers from the crowd . Instead we are treated to photos of idle cops( inadvisably according to Scotland Yard but they wont be sacked or disciplined) having their pics taken with a fully masked anti Israel protest attending child done up up like mini terrorists and others idly passing the time of day with those anti protesters on an obstructing sit in instead of doing their job and simply dragging them out of the way by their hair if necessary |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 13, 2023 18:20:17 GMT
Why would the Police try and stop Englishmen from getting to the Cenotaph on the 11th November to pay their respects? - that is not acceptable. So those that broke through the police barricade were better behaved than those who didn't? 🤔 I also note your use of "English" rather than "British", not for the first time in this thread. Interesting. There was no bad behaviour at the Cenotaph so the Police had no right to prevent anyone getting there - those held back were quite rightly annoyed at yet another example of the Met's 2 tier policing. |
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Post by wapentake on Nov 13, 2023 18:44:49 GMT
So those that broke through the police barricade were better behaved than those who didn't? 🤔 I also note your use of "English" rather than "British", not for the first time in this thread. Interesting. There was no bad behaviour at the Cenotaph so the Police had no right to prevent anyone getting there - those held back were quite rightly annoyed at yet another example of the Met's 2 tier policing. Rightly annoyed? So they threw bottles at the cops,funny how when they do stuff you approve of you’re their no 1 fan. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Nov 13, 2023 20:32:04 GMT
I'm beginning to wonder if Pacifico yearns for the EDL? Disorderly is OK? Tick.
English rather than British at a British ceremony? Tick...
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 7:51:30 GMT
There was no bad behaviour at the Cenotaph so the Police had no right to prevent anyone getting there - those held back were quite rightly annoyed at yet another example of the Met's 2 tier policing. Rightly annoyed? So they threw bottles at the cops,funny how when they do stuff you approve of you’re their no 1 fan. Why should an Englishman be prevented from expressing his condolences to the fallen on 11th November? |
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 15, 2023 7:53:46 GMT
I'm beginning to wonder if Pacifico yearns for the EDL? Disorderly is OK? Tick. English rather than British at a British ceremony? Tick... Failure to ban the deeply disrespectful protest on Armistice Day triggered a few hundred young white, working-class men to travel to London. If their capital and its monuments are not going to be defended by the police, then the people have to defend them themselves. |
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