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Post by see2 on Nov 2, 2023 13:30:55 GMT
The exaggerated lettering as if some nonsense independent comment on Facebook was the most important piece of information so far. Was correctly criticised. can you translate that please ? who posted something off facebook? Galit Distel Atbaryan, Read the full comment above her picture you posted on page 2.
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Post by thomas on Nov 2, 2023 13:31:02 GMT
aye thats my point. Its not just hamas using clearly inflammatory language , nor is israel the poor victim its made out to be.
well if we political geeks want to know "the wests " foreign policy on the middle east , and why carriers have been sent , we will ask the organ grinders in the whitehouse rather than the underlings in london.
Some Israelis are victims , some are not. saw that earlier , of those videos of the israeli police giving fellow jewish people a kicking for disgreeing with their government.
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Post by thomas on Nov 2, 2023 13:32:48 GMT
can you translate that please ? who posted something off facebook? Galit Distel Atbaryan, Read the full comment above her picture you posted on page 2. read my full post , including the link i posted.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 2, 2023 13:36:03 GMT
Some Israelis are victims , some are not. saw that earlier , of those videos of the israeli police giving fellow jewish people a kicking for disgreeing with their government. Hmmm. Israel is at war with a neighbour .
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Post by jonksy on Nov 2, 2023 14:00:10 GMT
saw that earlier , of those videos of the israeli police giving fellow jewish people a kicking for disgreeing with their government. Hmmm. Israel is at war with a neighbour . Yes a neighbour who have no right to be there.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2023 16:14:28 GMT
When I became aware of the massacre taking place in Israel 7th Oct, one of my early thoughts was that Israel had no option other than to destroy Hamas. I never thought that the method of destroying Hamas would be so disastrous for the Arabs. There are two points of view that I see. 1. The Israelis are entitled to destroy Hamas, if they don't then Hamas will come back stronger than Oct 7th, Well armed and maybe even accompanied by a well armed, well trained and well formed Hezbollah, and or others. Delivering an even greater blow than Oct 7th. Israel see themselves at war for survival. The West did not count the deaths of innocent civilians in the war for survival against the Nazis. 2. Hamas, or the extremists that would replace them, cannot be destroyed, the hatred of the non-Muslim Israelis is far too deep amongst what appears to be the majority Muslim Arabs. That hate is being exacerbated by the killing of Arabs in Gaza taking place right now. The minimum problem for the future of the Israelis might be a return to the high levels of suicide bombers, abductions and slayings and so on, of Israelis. And of course it could possibly entail far worse. Catch 22 for the Israelis? Given the lack of reactions in the world to the Massacre of the Israelis Oct 7th and the wide reactions against the Israeli invasion of Gaza it is difficult to se the Israelis coming out of this with anything at all. Is there a way out for Israel? After 5 pages of thread, the answer would appear to be no. All we are left with is pages of bickering, so no surprises there. Solutions are lacking. And this in the strictly moderated "mind zone"
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Post by see2 on Nov 2, 2023 17:10:06 GMT
Galit Distel Atbaryan, Read the full comment above her picture you posted on page 2. read my full post , including the link i posted. I'm referring to the font size above the picture. I assumed you put it in a large font size for affect.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 2, 2023 18:52:13 GMT
Let's get back to the topic please. For those who can't remember the question was ''is there a way out for Israel?''
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Post by Pacifico on Nov 2, 2023 22:28:08 GMT
Let's get back to the topic please. For those who can't remember the question was ''is there a way out for Israel?'' I think it's pretty obvious that Israel has decided on a way out - they just ignore the opinions of those who are complaining. Never in the past 80 years has 'world opinion' mattered less..
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Post by thomas on Nov 3, 2023 8:09:16 GMT
read my full post , including the link i posted. I'm referring to the font size above the picture. I assumed you put it in a large font size for affect. i know what you are referring to. I repeat again , the story is in the link , and its not off facebook.
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Post by oracle75 on Nov 3, 2023 10:25:28 GMT
Let's get back to the topic please. For those who can't remember the question was ''is there a way out for Israel?'' There is a way out if Israel stops being used as a pawn specifically by the USA,for its own purposes. Other ME cpuntries have accepted Israel and all but given up on the Palestinian cause because their own financial interests come before the Israel issue. Saudi, Doha in Qatar, Dubai, all want inclusion into western wealth, not into some unsolvable expensive war. They see the fuel income they love reducing in the future and want to integrate into a wider global market as allies. Which of them wants to stir this pot except Iran, already close to a pariah state, and a couple of extremist religious, idealistic, military cults ? The way out is the pressure of global trade which has always created alliances and mutual protection against those who challenge it. Scenarios include accepting Israel and Palestine into NATO. In the best of all worlds, both Israel and a state of Palestine should join the EU and start trading under a rules based umbrella, offering Palestine both developmental aid, global integration and a huge guaranteed market.
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Post by Dogburger on Nov 3, 2023 10:51:19 GMT
Let's get back to the topic please. For those who can't remember the question was ''is there a way out for Israel?'' Yep , Remove the threat of Hamas from Gaza . Its also a way out for the Palestinian people if they want peace
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Post by Vinny on Nov 3, 2023 10:52:40 GMT
First off get rid of that **** Netanyahu,Israel cannot be unmade and neither can the Palestinians. A two state solution needs to be enforced,there were accords happening with various Arab nations,it’s not impossible. There was a two state solution with India and Pakistan, didn't stop the Indo Pak wars, or Bangladesh breaking away from Pakistan. The Islamist culture is part of the problem. And Hamas are Islamists.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Nov 3, 2023 11:47:23 GMT
How about a small nuclear strike on Iran?
It would send a message to any would be sponsors of terrorism.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 3, 2023 11:52:03 GMT
How about a small nuclear strike on Iran? It would send a message to any would be sponsors of terrorism. Wouldn’t that open up a can of worms !😳
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