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Post by Pacifico on Oct 23, 2023 21:50:24 GMT
I watched an interesting polemic from Peter Whittle the ex-UKIP politician talking about the decline of London now that mass immigration since 1997 has happened.
A surprising statistic that highlighted its decline was that when I was born 98% of Londoners were White British and now that is down to only 37% - I can certainly confirm that the city I was born into I no longer recognise and (as suggested in the program) there is no shared history or experiences now between individual 'Londoners'. I mean FFS even Oven Jones proudly proclaims himself to be a 'Londoner', pity he comes from Sheffield though.
My family history (as far as I can trace it back) all come from London, that history dies with me.
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 24, 2023 8:18:15 GMT
The standard response from liberal lefties is so what?
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Post by Orac on Oct 24, 2023 8:20:35 GMT
It's been patently obvious for decades that some influential 'clique' in Whitehall has marked the English and their culture for demolition.
Quite why they are so hysterical about targeting this group in particular is unclear
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Post by Orac on Oct 24, 2023 8:27:21 GMT
The standard response from liberal lefties is so what? The frame they have to use to take this stance is a posed 'cosmic fatalism'. This frame doesn't sit well with other lefty sensibilities. It's hard to argue convincingly for radical change if your basic philosophical stance is that nothing really matters. Many of them likely feel the cognitive dissonance but are following an instruction to ignore it and plough on. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Oct 24, 2023 8:37:34 GMT
The official (and unofficial) disinterest in the demographic transformation in London and other large English cities, as well as the country as a whole, will seem quite astonishing to future anthropologists and historians as they sift through the ashes and remnants of western civilisation. How could such a once proud people, a folk who built an empire on which the sun never set, become so enfeebled that they were not only unable to resist our encroachments, but positively welcomed them? What is your assessment Dr. Gupta? Well frankly Professor Sawalha, I am as baffled as you are. There is simply no precedent in human history as far as I’m aware for a dominant culture to conspire in its own demise in such a fashion. We have no previous model on which to construct a theory. Perhaps they were so lacking in self-esteem, so enfeebled by decades of self-flagellation over their own perceived transgressions, so convinced that their guilt required the ultimate sacrifice, that they simply opened their doors to us and lay down and died. All we had to do was to walk in and accept their tribute, it was all just simply handed over, with a smile and a thanks for coming.
Yes indeed, it was all really quite remarkable. But let's be sure to learn from their mistakes and be ever vigilant not just against the enemies without but also those within. Now that we have the prize, we shall not let it go as lightly as they. |
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Post by Orac on Oct 24, 2023 8:53:46 GMT
We didn't lose a war and yet we are the ones who have to check over our shoulders before we an speak plainly to each other.
I don't think there is any historical precedent for a population just bending itself over entirely like this
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Post by Bentley on Oct 24, 2023 8:58:04 GMT
Don’t worry chaps. The Muslims will mop up the snowflakes and lady boys in a generation or two .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2023 9:06:06 GMT
When Melanie Phillips wrote "Londonistan" in 2006 everyone ignored it, or dismissed it as fiction.
17 years later...
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2023 12:44:17 GMT
I cant help noticing that comments from the forums outraged left are pretty thin on the ground. Quelle surprise.
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Post by dappy on Oct 24, 2023 12:49:52 GMT
What point of substance would you like me to reply too?
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Post by Bentley on Oct 24, 2023 12:51:51 GMT
What point of substance would you like me to reply too? Dan”The standard response from liberal lefties is so what?” He was right 😁 |
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2023 12:55:55 GMT
Don’t worry chaps. The Muslims will mop up the snowflakes and lady boys in a generation or two . Indeed, it's almost funny. Lefties seem to think that welcoming famously intolerant and aggressive anti social minorities will somehow change them, make them less aggressive and intolerant, more inclined to integrate. Good luck with that plan. Perhaps lefties believe that appeasing the bully will ensure the bully doesn't turn on them. They are obviously unaware that appeasement never ends well for the appeaser. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 24, 2023 13:07:34 GMT
Don’t worry chaps. The Muslims will mop up the snowflakes and lady boys in a generation or two . Indeed, it's almost funny. Lefties seem to think that welcoming famously intolerant and aggressive anti social minorities will somehow change them, make them less aggressive and intolerant, more inclined to integrate. Good luck with that plan. Perhaps lefties believe that appeasing the bully will ensure the bully doesn't turn on them. They are obviously unaware that appeasement never ends well for the appeaser. I’ve been told by more than one leftie that the reason Marxism has been a disaster everything time it’s been adopted is because it was the wrong sort of Marxism …I kid you not . Now the lefties will tell you that the only problem with Islam lie in the wrong sort of Muslims . |
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Post by dappy on Oct 24, 2023 13:08:35 GMT
I assume Red has progressed to talking about people from Islamic heritage?
I understand roughly 15% of London's population identify as being of muslim faith.
Still struggling to understand your point?
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 24, 2023 14:46:15 GMT
An excellent video which left me feeling quite angry, emotional even, but more than that it left me with an overwhelming sense of loss. Peter Whittle is of course right, but it's worse than even he thinks. We are not just witnessing the end of London as an English city, thanks to a white woke largely middle class we are witnessing the begining of the end of Englishness. Future historians may look back on the 21st century and wonder why on earth the English so readily accepted their own demise. |
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