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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 8:28:50 GMT
That's the leading question Zany we will never know as the sunak supporters got their own way. Also another thing that overtook her premiership was our Queen dying. Well yes it does require some thought and speculation, but presumably those support Truss and her ideas had an inkling of the result. We are not sure what she had in the pipeline for UK as events took over we can only speculate as you have already stated.... |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 7, 2023 9:26:09 GMT
Well yes it does require some thought and speculation, but presumably those support Truss and her ideas had an inkling of the result. We are not sure what she had in the pipeline for UK as events took over we can only speculate as you have already stated.... That's true mate. Though she did lay out her plans to cut tax by £38Bn and stop the windfall taxes. Would this have driven investment and created more tax income? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 7, 2023 9:53:11 GMT
Well yes it does require some thought and speculation, but presumably those support Truss and her ideas had an inkling of the result. We are not sure what she had in the pipeline for UK as events took over we can only speculate as you have already stated.... Yes it was all a bit iffy to me, I can't see how there was a Global financial meltdown because Truss was talking of tax cuts, 'next year', think there was more behind it to be honest. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 10:33:22 GMT
We are not sure what she had in the pipeline for UK as events took over we can only speculate as you have already stated.... That's true mate. Though she did lay out her plans to cut tax by £38Bn and stop the windfall taxes. Would this have driven investment and created more tax income? Yes she did mate. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 7, 2023 11:28:01 GMT
We had an election with Truss standing? The 2 most popular politicians at the Tory conference were Truss and Farage - which shows that the conservative agenda can be popular when it is articulated. All across Europe right-wing parties are gaining massive siupport - why would the UK be any different? No, but Tory popularity fell off a cliff when she became PM. Given the unpopularity of Boris when he resigned, that was quite an achievement. Yes, she is popular with the Tory membership. That isn't the large section of the electorate though that you are claiming. They said the same about Thatcher - and I dont see large swathes of the electorate switching to Sunaks New Labour policy platform. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 7, 2023 11:31:18 GMT
No, but Tory popularity fell off a cliff when she became PM. Given the unpopularity of Boris when he resigned, that was quite an achievement. Yes, she is popular with the Tory membership. That isn't the large section of the electorate though that you are claiming. They said the same about Thatcher - and I dont see large swathes of the electorate switching to Sunaks New Labour policy platform. Yet strangely we see large swathes of the electorate switching to Kiers New Labour policy platform. |
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Post by zanygame on Oct 7, 2023 11:33:37 GMT
We are not sure what she had in the pipeline for UK as events took over we can only speculate as you have already stated.... Yes it was all a bit iffy to me, I can't see how there was a Global financial meltdown because Truss was talking of tax cuts, 'next year', think there was more behind it to be honest. Well apparently Gordon Brown caused the 2008 Global financial meltdown, so I suppose its possible. Though I haven't heard anyone accuse Truss of causing a Global financial meltdown. Just a crises in our government borrowing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2023 11:40:43 GMT
They said the same about Thatcher - and I dont see large swathes of the electorate switching to Sunaks New Labour policy platform. Yet strangely we see large swathes of the electorate switching to Kiers New Labour policy platform. It's probably down to the racial purity in the leadership. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 7, 2023 11:42:00 GMT
Yes it was all a bit iffy to me, I can't see how there was a Global financial meltdown because Truss was talking of tax cuts, 'next year', think there was more behind it to be honest. Well apparently Gordon Brown caused the 2008 Global financial meltdown, so I suppose its possible. Though I haven't heard anyone accuse Truss of causing a Global financial meltdown. Just a crises in our government borrowing. Why do you think then ...
Truss's tax-cutting agenda shattered her credibility, degraded Britain's reputation with investors, drove up home mortgage rates, pushed the pound down to near parity with the American dollar, and forced the Bank of England to intervene to prop up British bonds.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 7, 2023 12:16:54 GMT
Well apparently Gordon Brown caused the 2008 Global financial meltdown, so I suppose its possible. Though I haven't heard anyone accuse Truss of causing a Global financial meltdown. Just a crises in our government borrowing. Why do you think then ...
Truss's tax-cutting agenda shattered her credibility, degraded Britain's reputation with investors, drove up home mortgage rates, pushed the pound down to near parity with the American dollar, and forced the Bank of England to intervene to prop up British bonds.
Yes all those things you list. But not causing a global meltdown. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 7, 2023 12:21:24 GMT
Why do you think then ...
Truss's tax-cutting agenda shattered her credibility, degraded Britain's reputation with investors, drove up home mortgage rates, pushed the pound down to near parity with the American dollar, and forced the Bank of England to intervene to prop up British bonds.
Yes all those things you list. But not causing a global meltdown. Don't be silly ..
Gilts/bonds are mainly bought by financial institutions in the UK and abroad, such as pension funds, investment funds, banks and insurance companies.
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Post by zanygame on Oct 7, 2023 13:20:39 GMT
Yes all those things you list. But not causing a global meltdown. Don't be silly ..
Gilts/bonds are mainly bought by financial institutions in the UK and abroad, such as pension funds, investment funds, banks and insurance companies.
What that has got to do with a global melt down I don't know. Nor neither do I care. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 7, 2023 19:49:01 GMT
Labour warned poll lead more fragile than it seems as Tory unpopularity ‘not enough’ to win election
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Post by zanygame on Oct 7, 2023 21:56:29 GMT
Labour warned poll lead more fragile than it seems as Tory unpopularity ‘not enough’ to win election
Lets see what happens when they start publishing their manifesto. |
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Post by jonksy on Oct 8, 2023 1:04:06 GMT
Labour warned poll lead more fragile than it seems as Tory unpopularity ‘not enough’ to win election
Lets see what happens when they start publishing their manifesto. But will they stick to it Zany. They don't call starmer flip flop for no reason. |
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