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Post by morayloon on Oct 18, 2023 0:12:34 GMT
A poll commissioned by The New Statesman and conducted by Drilldown in Blackpool South earlier this week has produced this: LAB: 51.6% (+13.3) CON: 32.8% (-16.3) As for todays Scottish By Election, I predict a comfortable Labour win I guess the Scotish won't mind who is fucking their country over. Whether it be SNATS or Labour nothing will change and Scotland it will just decline even further and then blame westminster. for all their woes. Total bullshit!!! Scotland is not in decline despite the best efforts of Westminster. Scot Gov has had to mitigate many Tory attacks on the less well off: e.g. the bedroom tax. The fact is that we don't CLAIM that its Westminster to blame for any problem that goes down in Scotland, we KNOW that Westminster is to blame!!! Westminster holds the purse strings. We only get back a fraction of the Scottish Tax take. We have only very limited borrowing powers. Despite that, Scot Gov has introduced new benefits with some of the ones shared with the UK being paid at a higher rate. |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 18, 2023 0:18:58 GMT
Even the Green party beat Reform. Doesn't look like they will split the vote on the right after all. Reform only got 1.3% of the vote in Rutherglen & Hamilton West. That the Green beat them is nothing new in Scotland. What is surprising is that the Greens did not out poll the LDs. Reform is seen as an English party in the same way that UKIP and Brexit were. |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 18, 2023 0:23:07 GMT
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Post by morayloon on Oct 18, 2023 0:28:59 GMT
If last night's vote is representative the SNP are going to have a very bad GE. It certainly seems that way. Thousands of supporters did not vote. Many because of the failure of the SNP to further the cause. They have done nothing that will entice people to back them again. Most of the disaffected will never vote for a Unionist, so any SNP losses will be down to their own faffing about. They must re-enthuse the YES movement. |
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Post by morayloon on Oct 18, 2023 0:32:16 GMT
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Post by dappy on Oct 18, 2023 17:24:15 GMT
So on to the two safe Tory seats - one getting 60% of the vote,one 66%. Both extraordinarily appear likely to be close. May be that the best possible “progressive” outcome in the context of the next election - Lab overturn Tamworth but a split vote in Beds allows the Tories in reminding Lib and Lab that if they fight each other at next election, they could gift numerous seats to the blues.
Will be interesting to see if the “silent majority” turns out for Reform or one of the many other populists standing or while Reform yet again fail to breech the Herculean 2% barrier.
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 19, 2023 20:55:39 GMT
Hmmm... I seem to remember that it was the parliamentary remnants that kept voting Mays deal down. So like Pacifico you too realise that Britain elected a remain parliament in 2017? only because almost every labour candidate stated on their manifesto it was important to respect the decision of the people, and then as soon as they got their arses on green leather plotted to bring about tbe very oppisite |
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Post by andrewbrown on Oct 20, 2023 7:36:31 GMT
So Labour pick up both Tamworth and Mid Beds.
I was sure that they would win Tamworth, but I thought the Tories would hold on in Mid Beds. 😯
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Post by sheepy on Oct 20, 2023 7:57:56 GMT
So Labour pick up both Tamworth and Mid Beds. I was sure that they would win Tamworth, but I thought the Tories would hold on in Mid Beds. 😯 Another Westminster party win, sort of, did the we want no part of it party win in the background? |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 20, 2023 9:50:48 GMT
So Labour pick up both Tamworth and Mid Beds. I was sure that they would win Tamworth, but I thought the Tories would hold on in Mid Beds. 😯 Same as the previous by-elections - Labour just about kept their support and the Tories stayed at home. Hopefully it will teach the Tories that trying to be New Labour does not win votes. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2023 9:57:52 GMT
All the reports I have read don't mention the turnout. Mid Beds was 44.1% Tamworth was 35.9% Meaning the "Couldn't Be Bothered To Vote" party got 55.9% in Mid Beds and a whopping 64.1% in Tamworth. The swing to CBBTV was huge.  |
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Post by see2 on Oct 20, 2023 10:03:01 GMT
So Labour pick up both Tamworth and Mid Beds. I was sure that they would win Tamworth, but I thought the Tories would hold on in Mid Beds. 😯 Same as the previous by-elections - Labour just about kept their support and the Tories stayed at home. Hopefully it will teach the Tories that trying to be New Labour does not win votes. The reality is that the Tories pretending they have a social conscious just doesn't work. |
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