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Post by see2 on Oct 28, 2023 8:51:54 GMT
That is easy for you to say, but try asking people of colour who suffered because the have the wrong sort of name, or the cricketers who have recently opened a can of worms over racism in the cricket world. What does 'people of colour' mean? Are you so painfully woke that you cant utter the word 'black' or 'brown'? Why is a Pakistani cricketer who accuses a team mate of a racial slur, nine years previously, immediately taken very seriously. Yet a white rugby player who accuses a black player of a racial slur minutes ago is ignored? People of colour, not just Black people sometimes suffer racism. And some people referred to as Black are anything but Black, they are of mixed race. Please shove 'your woke' back where it comes from, where the sun don't shine. Picking isolated cases in order to avoid facing a problem that actually exists, is bias, not debate. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Oct 28, 2023 9:08:17 GMT
Lack of evidence. Tom Curry appears to be the only person who heard the SA hooker call him a white c*unt. The ref' didn't hear it and the hooker denied it. What else could they do but decide to take no action? They did not ''ignore it''. I suspect if a black player had complained about a racial slur from a white player, things would have been quite different. But you already know this, we all do. Oh take it from me Red, if it was the other way round they'd be using state of the art advanced NASA technology to 'lip read' the white player, no expense speared, this white player must be brought to justice as a racist, kicked off the team and a life time ban. |
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Post by piglet on Oct 28, 2023 9:21:02 GMT
When i moved to Birmingham in 1979 the Bullring had gangs of West Indians lolling around all day, i was passing through to catch a train when a black person called out" where you going white boy", so racism isnt about white on black. But if blacks insist on being racist then so shall whites, like white premiership teams, white buses, white police associations etc.
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 10:00:35 GMT
A case has been made for it, it's just not convinced a few individuals who's starting point appears to be fierce opposition to it. I doubt I could convince many Man Utd supporters that Pep Guardiola is a better and more influential manager than Alex Ferguson was, doesn't mean my argument is without merit. Conversely, I've yet to hear a convincing argument to cancel BHM. You are of course quite wrong, and you know you're wrong. No case has been made for it, an aggressive politically correct minority demand it, but if that's what you call making a case, hello anarchy here we come. Black people have made no significant contribution to this country, none whatsoever. Indeed as former BBC journalist Rod Liddle famously said ... The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. In return for all this crime, the black community has given Britain 'rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks'.The usual crowd of minority appeasing outraged lefties obviously criticised him for being racist, par for the course. But oddly, they neglected to deny his claims. Black history month my arse, it's virtue signalling nonsense. If we are going to have a minority appeasment month, then it should be to a minority who have at least made a positive contribution to this country, India springs to mind. I think this post of yours makes a very strong argument for the need to teach black history. RE: knife crime, Akala addresses this issue very well: "Rapper and activist Akala has said that Britain’s rising knife crime rates are due to poverty and lack of education, not race. The 35-year-old author told Channel 4 News that racial explanations for gang crime are a “way out for the powers that be in society”. “It’s revealing that what happens in London is black-on-black crime,” he said, “but what happens in Glasgow – race is not important”. There are 1.2 million black people in London, in a bad year 50 of them will kill someone, that’s less than 0.004 per cent of that population.” He continued: “Just to contrast, in a bad year in Glasgow – say 2005 – there were 40 murders. There were only 600,000 people in Glasgow. “So that year a Glaswegian – as a whole – was twice as likely to be killed as a black Londoner.” Poverty, domestic abuse, lack of education – so expulsion from school. For example, almost half the people in prison today in Britain were expelled from school as children, versus just one per cent of the population as a whole.” The issue of knife crime and youth gang violence is, he went on, not a new phenomena, but rather a trend of that has continued for two centuries." |
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Post by ratcliff on Oct 28, 2023 10:06:09 GMT
What does 'people of colour' mean? Are you so painfully woke that you cant utter the word 'black' or 'brown'? Why is a Pakistani cricketer who accuses a team mate of a racial slur, nine years previously, immediately taken very seriously. Yet a white rugby player who accuses a black player of a racial slur minutes ago is ignored? People of colour, not just Black people sometimes suffer racism. And some people referred to as Black are anything but Black, they are of mixed race. Please shove 'your woke' back where it comes from, where the sun don't shine. Picking isolated cases in order to avoid facing a problem that actually exists, is bias, not debate. Are white/olive skinned not ''people of colour'' ? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2023 10:31:59 GMT
The underlying need for a Black History Month is the racism that still exists in the UK. It needs to be eradicated , or at least massively reduced, and IMO one of the best ways to do it is through education. The UK is the least racist country in Europe so whatever racism is left is hardly going to be eradicated by celebrating the achievements of people nobody has heard of or cares about. This is why they're pushing their racial hatred and bitterness onto the country. They hate white people and the western world, and know we have enough left-wingers who will support it out of the same hatred. Personally, I would pull my kids out of school. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 10:36:42 GMT
You are of course quite wrong, and you know you're wrong. No case has been made for it, an aggressive politically correct minority demand it, but if that's what you call making a case, hello anarchy here we come. Black people have made no significant contribution to this country, none whatsoever. Indeed as former BBC journalist Rod Liddle famously said ... The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. In return for all this crime, the black community has given Britain 'rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks'.The usual crowd of minority appeasing outraged lefties obviously criticised him for being racist, par for the course. But oddly, they neglected to deny his claims. Black history month my arse, it's virtue signalling nonsense. If we are going to have a minority appeasment month, then it should be to a minority who have at least made a positive contribution to this country, India springs to mind. I think this post of yours makes a very strong argument for the need to teach black history. RE: knife crime, Akala addresses this issue very well: "Rapper and activist Akala has said that Britain’s rising knife crime rates are due to poverty and lack of education, not race. The 35-year-old author told Channel 4 News that racial explanations for gang crime are a “way out for the powers that be in society”. “It’s revealing that what happens in London is black-on-black crime,” he said, “but what happens in Glasgow – race is not important”. There are 1.2 million black people in London, in a bad year 50 of them will kill someone, that’s less than 0.004 per cent of that population.” He continued: “Just to contrast, in a bad year in Glasgow – say 2005 – there were 40 murders. There were only 600,000 people in Glasgow. “So that year a Glaswegian – as a whole – was twice as likely to be killed as a black Londoner.” Poverty, domestic abuse, lack of education – so expulsion from school. For example, almost half the people in prison today in Britain were expelled from school as children, versus just one per cent of the population as a whole.” The issue of knife crime and youth gang violence is, he went on, not a new phenomena, but rather a trend of that has continued for two centuries." Yes , black people will learn about Mary Seacole . MLK ,and mythical black empires of the past and stop stabbing each other . |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 11:16:40 GMT
I think this post of yours makes a very strong argument for the need to teach black history. RE: knife crime, Akala addresses this issue very well: "Rapper and activist Akala has said that Britain’s rising knife crime rates are due to poverty and lack of education, not race. The 35-year-old author told Channel 4 News that racial explanations for gang crime are a “way out for the powers that be in society”. “It’s revealing that what happens in London is black-on-black crime,” he said, “but what happens in Glasgow – race is not important”. There are 1.2 million black people in London, in a bad year 50 of them will kill someone, that’s less than 0.004 per cent of that population.” He continued: “Just to contrast, in a bad year in Glasgow – say 2005 – there were 40 murders. There were only 600,000 people in Glasgow. “So that year a Glaswegian – as a whole – was twice as likely to be killed as a black Londoner.” Poverty, domestic abuse, lack of education – so expulsion from school. For example, almost half the people in prison today in Britain were expelled from school as children, versus just one per cent of the population as a whole.” The issue of knife crime and youth gang violence is, he went on, not a new phenomena, but rather a trend of that has continued for two centuries." Yes , black people will learn about Mary Seacole . MLK ,and mythical black empires of the past and stop stabbing each other . If that's all you've got to offer in response to Akala's articulate, fact based, logic driven argument I think it's a pretty clear win for Akala. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 11:27:04 GMT
Yes , black people will learn about Mary Seacole . MLK ,and mythical black empires of the past and stop stabbing each other . If that's all you've got to offer in response to Akala's articulate, fact based, logic driven argument I think it's a pretty clear win for Akala. Its a valid point , albeit sarcastic . If you think that black history month will reduce black crime then you are delusional. |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 11:32:35 GMT
If that's all you've got to offer in response to Akala's articulate, fact based, logic driven argument I think it's a pretty clear win for Akala. Its a valid point , albeit sarcastic . If you think that black history month will reduce black crime then you are delusional. Did I say that? I do think attitudes like that expressed by Red Rackham make a strong case for BHM. If black kids are hearing things like that said about them then BHM would offer a much needed counter narrative. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 11:37:46 GMT
Its a valid point , albeit sarcastic . If you think that black history month will reduce black crime then you are delusional. Did I say that? I do think attitudes like that expressed by Red Rackham make a strong case for BHM. If black kids are hearing things like that said about them then BHM would offer a much needed counter narrative. Red.The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. In return for all this crime, the black community has given Britain 'rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks'. You ..I think this post of yours makes a very strong argument for the need to teach black history. Yes you did say that l |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 11:39:40 GMT
Did I say that? I do think attitudes like that expressed by Red Rackham make a strong case for BHM. If black kids are hearing things like that said about them then BHM would offer a much needed counter narrative. Red.The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. In return for all this crime, the black community has given Britain 'rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks'. You ..I think this post of yours makes a very strong argument for the need to teach black history. Yes you did say that l Nope. This comment from Red: "Black people have made no significant contribution to this country, none whatsoever." Makes a strong case for BHM. The knife crime argument was demolished by Akala in my previous post. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 11:42:36 GMT
Red.The overwhelming majority of street crime, knife crime, gun crime, robbery and crimes of sexual violence in London is carried out by young men from the African-Caribbean community. In return for all this crime, the black community has given Britain 'rap music, goat curry and a far more vibrant and diverse understanding of cultures which were once alien to us. For which, many thanks'. You ..I think this post of yours makes a very strong argument for the need to teach black history. Yes you did say that l Nope. This comment from Red: "Black people have made no significant contribution to this country, none whatsoever." Makes a strong case for BHM. The knife crime argument was demolished by Akala in my previous post. No it didn’t . How is black crime in London a significant contribution but white crime in Glasgow is not ? Do you even understand your own posts ? |
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Post by happyhornet on Oct 28, 2023 11:43:59 GMT
Nope. This comment from Red: "Black people have made no significant contribution to this country, none whatsoever." Makes a strong case for BHM. The knife crime argument was demolished by Akala in my previous post. No it didn’t . How is black crime in London a significant contribution but white crime in Glasgow is not ? Do you even understand your own posts ? I don't understand yours, you've lost me here. |
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Post by Bentley on Oct 28, 2023 11:46:49 GMT
No it didn’t . How is black crime in London a significant contribution but white crime in Glasgow is not ? Do you even understand your own posts ? I don't understand yours, you've lost me here. You post disjointed rubbish and wonder why you get lost. Now tell me how black history month would help stop black crime in London . |
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