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Post by jonksy on Sept 26, 2023 9:54:08 GMT
VAT Private Schools Fees & a Labour Government.......Does this mean that labour MP's will be now sending their Kids to Blairs deathtraps?
The Labour Party has committed to the removal of several tax exemptions from private schools. This article considers their plans to impose 20% VAT on private school fees, which are currently exempt from VAT. If this affects you, please read on. What has the Labour Party said? Bridget Phillipson, the Shadow Education Secretary, said the following in early 2023. “Labour will put our children, their futures, and the future of our country first by asking those with the broadest shoulders to contribute their fair share by requiring private schools to pay business rates as state schools already do and to pay VAT as our colleges already do. Labour would use the funds raised by removing private schools’ tax exemptions to recruit 6,500 more teachers, as well as to offer additional teacher training and careers advice and work experience for all pupils.”
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Post by Tinculin on Sept 26, 2023 18:00:06 GMT
Absolutely dreadful that Labour would want to tax children for their education.
Honestly as a swing voter, this is a red flag for me.
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Post by dappy on Sept 26, 2023 18:55:03 GMT
We know that kids that go to private schools will go on to earn much more money, or play for national sports teams or achieve in all sorts of ways more than ordinary kids who go to ordinary state schools.
We have limited resources in our country so the state can only spend so much money. So surely we should invest in excellence. So my view is that we should cut the budget for state schools (accepting that ordinary kids education will be even worse as a result) and invest the money saved in subsidising private school fees by say 20% so that the kids already getting the best opportunity to succeed get even better opportunities.
Frankly can’t see an argument against this plan
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Post by Hutchyns on Sept 26, 2023 19:25:40 GMT
Dappy is definitely on the right lines with this initiative. You only have to look at State run monoliths such as the NHS to witness that you can forever pour greater amounts of money in and the worse it gets. State school kids are either stabbing each other, vaping, or out protesting about climate change having been subjected to Lefty indoctrination for most of the school day rather than any basic education ....or influenced by that little Scandinavian oddball.
At least you get some bang for your buck as regards money put into the private sector, so let's either subsidise the fees or distribute that extra 20% saved directly to the Private Schools to reward them for providing the only worthwhile education that can be obtained by youngsters in Britain today.
It's a long overdue first step towards phasing out the bloated and disastrous State 'education' system, and moving to a voucher system whereby a good choice of privately provided education can help our youngsters flourish.
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 26, 2023 20:46:22 GMT
Gosh do my eyes deceive me?
It's almost as if our arch-egalitarian dappy is arguing for the return of the 11-plus and the grammar schools.
It all sounds rather elitist.
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 26, 2023 21:13:44 GMT
We know that kids that go to private schools will go on to earn much more money, or play for national sports teams or achieve in all sorts of ways more than ordinary kids who go to ordinary state schools. Indeed - so we need more private schools not less.
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Post by patman post on Sept 26, 2023 21:28:57 GMT
We know that kids that go to private schools will go on to earn much more money, or play for national sports teams or achieve in all sorts of ways more than ordinary kids who go to ordinary state schools. Indeed - so we need more private schools not less. We possibly need more schools of the quality of private schools (if they’re reckoned to be better), but I’m not sure we can justify anyone wanting a good education for their children having to pay for it. Here I have to admit that I have little experience of UK primary or secondary education because I and my sister were sent away to Guyana at eight or thereabouts, and didn’t return until we were ready for A levels, which we both sailed through…
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 26, 2023 21:35:42 GMT
Indeed - so we need more private schools not less. We possibly need more schools of the quality of private schools (if they’re reckoned to be better), but I’m not sure we can justify anyone wanting a good education for their children having to pay for it.Here I have to admit that I have little experience of UK primary or secondary education because I and my sister were sent away to Guyana at eight or thereabouts, and didn’t return until we were ready for A levels, which we both sailed through… we already pay for it - dearly. In fact those who send their sprogs to private schools are doing the country a service because they pay for a State education that they do not use and then pay again to go private.
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Post by patman post on Sept 26, 2023 21:47:11 GMT
We possibly need more schools of the quality of private schools (if they’re reckoned to be better), but I’m not sure we can justify anyone wanting a good education for their children having to pay for it.Here I have to admit that I have little experience of UK primary or secondary education because I and my sister were sent away to Guyana at eight or thereabouts, and didn’t return until we were ready for A levels, which we both sailed through… we already pay for it - dearly. In fact those who send their sprogs to private schools are doing the country a service because they pay for a State education that they do not use and then pay again to go private. I don’t argue with any of that, except that everyone pays for it (childless or not) just as they do health, rubbish collection, weather forecasting, etc, etc, etc. I’m lucky enough to have private health care for my family even though we pay NI…
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Post by Montegriffo on Sept 26, 2023 22:38:48 GMT
We know that kids that go to private schools will go on to earn much more money, or play for national sports teams or achieve in all sorts of ways more than ordinary kids who go to ordinary state schools. Indeed - so we need more private schools not less. *fewer
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Post by dodgydave on Sept 27, 2023 1:02:10 GMT
Populist nonsense from Labour.
They should concentrate on improving opportunities, rather pushing some weird communist idea that we are all equal lol.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 6:16:19 GMT
Absolutely dreadful that Labour would want to tax children for their education. Honestly as a swing voter, this is a red flag for me. How is this a tax? They are removing a benefit.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2023 6:18:03 GMT
Populist nonsense from Labour. They should concentrate on improving opportunities, rather pushing some weird communist idea that we are all equal lol. It's populist among the people that have to send their kids to schools that are falling down and understaffed.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 27, 2023 6:20:38 GMT
Populist nonsense from Labour. They should concentrate on improving opportunities, rather pushing some weird communist idea that we are all equal lol. It's populist among the people that have to send their kids to schools that are falling down and understaffed. Curtesy of blairs PFI.
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Post by dappy on Sept 27, 2023 6:21:03 GMT
I am delighted that we seem to have unanimously agreed that it makes sense to divert state money away from funding education of council estate kids in Stoke order to invest in the future by subsidising the education of our children at Eton. Too right.
Surely we should go further. What on earth is the point of wasting money maintaining roads for these low life’s in Staffordshire - I think thats where Stoke is, I don’t go up north much - when the prime economic driver of the country is the South East. Stop spending on such triviality now and spend the money instead on funding a 20% discount on purchase price of Ferraris. Apparently a rear wheel nut for Ferraris are made in Stoke so more jobs for Stokies and only a five mile walk each way. Win win for Brexit Britain.
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