When did education become a luxury?

Scotland had a state education system that was the envy of the world but the SNATS soon put the mockers on that and it is now the worst in Europe if not the world. This is typical of the left as everything they touch turns to shit.

Well what we do know is that taxing seven per cent of children won’t fund an ambitious school improvement programme for the other 93 per cent - in fact its highly likely it will not raise any meaningful amount of money at all.

Education has always been seen as a national good, so there is a good case for zero rating private education. There are also societal benefits from attending private schools as a result of higher levels of skills and human capital - private schooling choices also generate savings for government expenditure.

But none of this matters when it's the politics of envy.

Of course Pacifico. I agree entirely. If one policy cannot entirely solve the chronic underfunding of education for council estate kids in Stoke, what on earth would be the point of even starting down that road? It would only give these kids the false expectation that people like them are in any way valued in Brexit Britain. Far far better to keep on subsidising the education of the richer establishment kids. I think we all agree on that. After all if we don’t ensure that kids of the establishment get by far the best deal in our country and council estate kids get ignored, who on earth will make up the privileged establishment in thirty years time and ensure that the system is arranged to benefit their children?

Pacifico 


Having even more money going into the State Education system will only result in the already lazy teachers demanding an even bigger pay rise, and then if there's any money left over, they'll demand it be spent of Transgender storybooks for them to read to the kids.

Just remember what Covid revealed, Private School pupils expected to be dressed in their uniforms and sat at their computers by 9am, ready to attend their Zoom classroom with their teachers, while in contrast State Teachers buggered off home saying they might see the kids in 6 months time ..... but at any rate they'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep the schools closed as long as possible, while still enjoying full pay.

Let's not shovel more money into a failed system. Dappy has spelt out  a vision for the future ....let's embrace it.

Yes the Politics of hatred and envy brought up yet again, firstly there are a number of MP's that are in place today in all parties that went to Private Independent Schools and went onto Universities the House of Lords is full of them, it was the Labour Party that introduced University Fees which means today students at the end of their Uni days having to pay off what they owe for years, the only way to avoid it is to take their skills emigrate and never come back.

Prescott who failed the 11 plus led the charge to destroy the Grammar Schools fortunately some survived, I started school in the early 50's the days of the 11 plus if you passed it you were offered a place at the local Grammar School, if you failed it you had to attend the new Secondary School, Labour back then should have worked to bring the Secondary Schools up to the same level of Grammar Schools 

 Today many parents move home to try and get their kids into better performing schools if their local schools are failing and IMO many are , some of our Teachers today are left wing politically motivated when they should leave their political views at home 

Educations starts in the home sadly some parents shirk their responsibility onto the schools, our eldest works in Education she knows full well that some of the kids starting school can't even tie their shoes let alone have basic reading skills ,many homes these days do not even have one book in the house sad to say.

It matters not how rich parents are and can afford the Fees of Private Schools for their kids, like the 11 plus if their child cannot pass the entrance exam they will not be accepted full stop they cannot buy a place for their kids

Due to the fact that Private Schools are not subject to VAT it means that Private Schools can and do provide Bursaries free places for children from less well off parents that can pass the entrance exam and go onto higher education , and long may that continue , but IMO Labour may well destroy their chances of a good free education .

All down to spite and envy 

 


 

Oh here we go politics of envy,what a load of cobblers.

Whilst I don’t agree with dappys sarcastic references to brexit on other points he’s not wrong and who is envious of those kids on hopeless estates? well certainly not you.

Whilst Starmer is a mammoth ****   I don’t see why they are given charitable status.

History does show us that given the right education those from the bottom can succeed and there was a time when the state system offered that.

We've had this discussion recently and I wouldn’t set punitive measures against them but private schools as entities get far more for the already privileged and like the nhs if it is to excel there needs far more cross party support and less interference from the govt  of the day. for the state sector.

Its the tories who coined the phrase levelling up and that’s not a bad idea,even the the kids from the scummiest parts of the UK deserve the chance to excel they are after all the future of this country there is a fog around the  finances of private education,why is that? probably because the politicians of all parties send their kids down that route don’t they Ms Abbott.

Kids are a blank canvas and stating the bleeding obvious not all are able to access the advantages of places like eton which perpetuate a system of elite families,surely that blank canvas should be populated with knowledge for the benefit of the whole of this country and them  and not used for political ends.