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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 14, 2023 18:14:29 GMT
"What’s gone wrong with the green jobs initiative? Smith’s answer is simple – everything is built elsewhere, then imported to the UK." That's nothing to do with Net Zero, the UK has never been a participant in the renewable power sector. Well that is really his point - we are shutting down real jobs in existing energy production industries for non-existent 'green jobs' in industries that we dont have. Net Zero is going to decimate working-class communities. What real jobs? You mean coal-mining or working on oil and gas rigs? |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 14, 2023 19:15:47 GMT
To go where? Our frigging oceans are full of the stuff and there is hardly anything you can drink or eat that isn't contaminated by plastics. You miss my point Jonsky. I never claimed plastics go away, simply that they disperse. Chuck your drink bottle in the river it disperses out to sea. Pump exhaust gasses out your boiler and they disperse into the atmosphere. In neither case do they disappear, they both hang around for centuries. Exhaust gasses are natural plastic are not.....Well lets hope that exhaust gases are still around in centuries to come. The globs would die whithout C02.... |
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Post by jonksy on Sept 14, 2023 19:16:59 GMT
Well that is really his point - we are shutting down real jobs in existing energy production industries for non-existent 'green jobs' in industries that we dont have. Net Zero is going to decimate working-class communities. What real jobs? You mean coal-mining or working on oil and gas rigs? Has greta got a REAL JOB? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 14, 2023 19:51:09 GMT
Who cares?
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Post by Pacifico on Sept 15, 2023 6:38:26 GMT
Well that is really his point - we are shutting down real jobs in existing energy production industries for non-existent 'green jobs' in industries that we dont have. Net Zero is going to decimate working-class communities. What real jobs? You mean coal-mining or working on oil and gas rigs? Which provide good high paid jobs that we need more of not less. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Sept 15, 2023 9:15:17 GMT
As I understood the union leader's complaint it concerned the lack of job opportunities for British workers in the renewables industry, wind-power in particular. He wasn't calling for coal-mining to be resurrected.
He is right of course. The UK lost control of its capabilities for power generation in general as a result of privatisation and the closure of the CEGB in the 1990s.
All of the engineering companies in the sector went to the wall as well with the result that the high-paying jobs disappeared as well.
Power generation in the UK is now almost entirely foreign-owned with the inevitable result that investment in R&D, technology and manufacture of capital equipment are also concentrated in the home countries of the companies that now run the industry.
Sending men and boys back down the pit doesn't seem to be the right answer to this.
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Post by bancroft on Sept 17, 2023 11:44:51 GMT
Don't worry thousands of indoctrinated clip board inspectors will roam the towns and ready to tell you in no certain manner when they inspect your house unless you get a heat ex-changer, solar panels and electric car you will be subject to certain green taxes.
They have nowhere else to go and I am not sure having police with speed cameras hidden around all the suburbs will win work this time.
They might push for taxing car journey's yet that risks the spectre of the poll tax.
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Post by zanygame on Sept 17, 2023 12:18:50 GMT
Don't worry thousands of indoctrinated clip board inspectors will roam the towns and ready to tell you in no certain manner when they inspect your house unless you get a heat ex-changer, solar panels and electric car you will be subject to certain green taxes. They have nowhere else to go and I am not sure having police with speed cameras hidden around all the suburbs will win work this time. They might push for taxing car journey's yet that risks the spectre of the poll tax. Interesting. Do you think we will face green taxes? Businesses have all just had a compulsory review of their green sustainability. But there's no notice yet of what's to follow. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 17, 2023 12:43:13 GMT
Green gulags
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Post by zanygame on Sept 17, 2023 15:08:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 17:41:44 GMT
Or mainstream moderation. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 17, 2023 18:17:09 GMT
Or mainstream moderation. Gulags?  |
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Post by bancroft on Sept 17, 2023 18:37:56 GMT
Don't worry thousands of indoctrinated clip board inspectors will roam the towns and ready to tell you in no certain manner when they inspect your house unless you get a heat ex-changer, solar panels and electric car you will be subject to certain green taxes. They have nowhere else to go and I am not sure having police with speed cameras hidden around all the suburbs will win work this time. They might push for taxing car journey's yet that risks the spectre of the poll tax. Interesting. Do you think we will face green taxes? Businesses have all just had a compulsory review of their green sustainability. But there's no notice yet of what's to follow. I think the risk of more green taxes will come from a future Labour govt rather than Tory. |
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Post by zanygame on Sept 17, 2023 19:28:51 GMT
Interesting. Do you think we will face green taxes? Businesses have all just had a compulsory review of their green sustainability. But there's no notice yet of what's to follow. I think the risk of more green taxes will come from a future Labour govt rather than Tory. You may be right. Though I would hope Labour are more likely to offer help than punishment. Who knows. |
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Post by Orac on Sept 17, 2023 19:57:45 GMT
Or mainstream moderation. Gulags? Prisoners are sorted in camp Net Zero |
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