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Post by zanygame on Aug 29, 2023 19:23:47 GMT
Didn't Sweden resist a lockdown, but were forced to change position after their death rate reached numbers unheard of by their neighbours?
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Post by jonksy on Aug 29, 2023 19:45:18 GMT
So just a normal day then. The average mortality rate of the UK averages 1000 per day with or whithout a epidemic. A 1,000 a day on top of the usual and from a single cause. So not quite a normal day. The original poster ever stated on top of the normal 1000. But funny enough those figures match the mortalitlity rate of flue season. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 29, 2023 19:47:42 GMT
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Post by zanygame on Aug 29, 2023 19:50:59 GMT
A 1,000 a day on top of the usual and from a single cause. So not quite a normal day. The original poster ever stated on top of the normal 1000. But funny enough those figures match the mortalitlity rate of flue season. They probably assumed we could work that out. The mortality rate for flu has always been high because when you are dying and your immune system stops working its usually a flu virus that finishes you off. Covid did much the same only with people not quite so near death, especially the original version before it mutated down (As they always do) to Omicron. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 29, 2023 19:51:30 GMT
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Post by jonksy on Aug 29, 2023 20:00:00 GMT
The original poster ever stated on top of the normal 1000. But funny enough those figures match the mortalitlity rate of flue season. They probably assumed we could work that out. The mortality rate for flu has always been high because when you are dying and your immune system stops working its usually a flu virus that finishes you off. Covid did much the same only with people not quite so near death, especially the original version before it mutated down (As they always do) to Omicron. But strangely enugh no flu deaths were recorded during the covid crisis. They say that the truth is stranger than fiction. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 29, 2023 20:13:54 GMT
They probably assumed we could work that out. The mortality rate for flu has always been high because when you are dying and your immune system stops working its usually a flu virus that finishes you off. Covid did much the same only with people not quite so near death, especially the original version before it mutated down (As they always do) to Omicron. But strangely enugh no flu deaths were recorded during the covid crisis. They say that the truth is stranger than fiction. There were 14,000 flu deaths recorded in 2020. They were down considerably of previous years because Covid was killing them instead. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 29, 2023 21:15:28 GMT
Sweden ended up not doing too bad - Oz got off to a good start but then ended up in the same boat as everyone else.  |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 29, 2023 22:01:52 GMT
But strangely enugh no flu deaths were recorded during the covid crisis. They say that the truth is stranger than fiction. There were 14,000 flu deaths recorded in 2020. They were down considerably of previous years because Covid was killing them instead. We do not know that flu deaths numbers were down during covid. It seems as tho everyone who died was due covid and nothing more. How many elderly in care homes died because of neglect and covid was blamed for their mortality? We will never ever get a true resultive figure on so called pandemic deaths. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Aug 30, 2023 6:54:52 GMT
Didn't Sweden resist a lockdown, but were forced to change position after their death rate reached numbers unheard of by their neighbours? No. Sweden's general approach was to inform the public of the facts and give advice on how to avoid spreading the disease. Some large events were cancelled but no laws were brought in to restrict freedoms. Unlike many other countries. The first lesson was that lockdowns did NOT work and the cost was huge both financially (furlough) and in "unintended consequences" like excess deaths and storing up medical problems for the future by cutting GP appointments and cancer care. We're still suffering huge rates of excess deaths (about 40,000 last year) and no one is really sure why. The biggest lesson to learn is to beware charlatans with models that don't work. If you base govt policy on a model devised for flu it's not going to be much use for a genetically manipulated corona virus. That should have been obvious but apparently wasn't. And, moving on to the current day, if you base govt climate policy on a model that has got every prediction wrong so far it won't work out well. But we never learn. I don't entirely blame the govt for this because there are forces greater than them at work here. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 30, 2023 20:37:00 GMT
There were 14,000 flu deaths recorded in 2020. They were down considerably of previous years because Covid was killing them instead. We do not know that flu deaths numbers were down during covid. It seems as tho everyone who died was due covid and nothing more. How many elderly in care homes died because of neglect and covid was blamed for their mortality? We will never ever get a true resultive figure on so called pandemic deaths. As I said, respiratory disease ends so many lives. Call it flu or Covid doesn't matter. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 30, 2023 20:41:01 GMT
We do not know that flu deaths numbers were down during covid. It seems as tho everyone who died was due covid and nothing more. How many elderly in care homes died because of neglect and covid was blamed for their mortality? We will never ever get a true resultive figure on so called pandemic deaths. As I said, respiratory disease ends so many lives. Call it flu or Covid doesn't matter. COVID is a particular flu virus .Covid tests detected a particular virus . It mattered . |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 30, 2023 20:44:15 GMT
We do not know that flu deaths numbers were down during covid. It seems as tho everyone who died was due covid and nothing more. How many elderly in care homes died because of neglect and covid was blamed for their mortality? We will never ever get a true resultive figure on so called pandemic deaths. As I said, respiratory disease ends so many lives. Call it flu or Covid doesn't matter. It matters to the poor buggers that die and also bothers their loved ones and family. Would you accept a death by suicide deemed as heart failure etc? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2023 20:54:15 GMT
Sweden ended up not doing too bad - Oz got off to a good start but then ended up in the same boat as everyone else. I notice that this went ignored. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 30, 2023 21:15:08 GMT
As I said, respiratory disease ends so many lives. Call it flu or Covid doesn't matter. It matters to the poor buggers that die and also bothers their loved ones and family. Would you accept a death by suicide deemed as heart failure etc? That wasn't want I meant Jonsky. As i explained, while respiratory disease might well finish off those at the end of their lives it can only do so because old age means their organs are not functioning well enough to keep them alive. Pneumonia in its various viral forms is an easier explanation on a death certificate than .. The patient hand a heart failure rate of 75%, due to this their blood flow was poor and because of that there kidneys are failing. We gave the patient water retention pills but these place unusual pressure on their liver. We gave them pills for this but is subdues their immune system, so they were vulnerable to infections. How many children do you think really want to know that mum died of multiple organ failure due to old age? |
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