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Post by Pacifico on Nov 28, 2022 8:44:50 GMT
So a Starmer 'red line' - any guesses what that will be worth?....  |
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Post by thomas on Nov 28, 2022 8:45:30 GMT
Painting yourself as objective , while trying and failing to give the impression you arent biased , is where you go wring. Then when called out on it , you use weasel words .
Still cant see where i have lied. so no apology from me.
The point was not about objectivity it was about whether or not I am biased. You can of course look for a hiding place, but the facts speak for themselves. you are biased. Couching that bias behind im so honourable and objective my word is my bond is laughable.
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Post by totheleft3 on Nov 28, 2022 8:47:00 GMT
See2 forget about Thomas hes a Scottish Alba man who owns some grudge against new labour .
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 2, 2022 6:31:26 GMT
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Post by borchester on Dec 2, 2022 6:51:46 GMT
The point was not about objectivity it was about whether or not I am biased. You can of course look for a hiding place, but the facts speak for themselves. you are biased. Couching that bias behind im so honourable and objective my word is my bond is laughable.
Starmer is a lying son of a bitch and if he could increase his vote by cutting his prick off, then he he would immediately demonstrate that he was not a complete dick.
On the other hand, Sunak is also a lying little whores' melt, so it is really all in the lap of the Gods
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Post by Toreador on Dec 2, 2022 7:17:07 GMT
you are biased. Couching that bias behind im so honourable and objective my word is my bond is laughable.
Starmer is a lying son of a bitch and if he could increase his vote by cutting his prick off, then he he would immediately demonstrate that he was not a complete dick.
On the other hand, Sunak is also a lying little whores' melt, so it is really all in the lap of the Gods
One's a lawyer the other worked for Goldman Sachs, are you expecting too much?  |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 2, 2022 7:26:03 GMT
Starmer is a lying son of a bitch and if he could increase his vote by cutting his prick off, then he he would immediately demonstrate that he was not a complete dick.
On the other hand, Sunak is also a lying little whores' melt, so it is really all in the lap of the Gods
One's a lawyer the other worked for Goldman Sachs, are you expecting too much? Oh my maybe we should have a former city trader In |
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Post by Toreador on Dec 2, 2022 10:39:57 GMT
One's a lawyer the other worked for Goldman Sachs, are you expecting too much? Oh my maybe we should have a former city trader In A comment which is way off topic. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 8, 2022 14:41:56 GMT
So a Starmer 'red line' - any guesses what that will be worth?.... If you could see further than your total bias you wouldn't post such childish nonsense. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 8, 2022 14:45:30 GMT
The point was not about objectivity it was about whether or not I am biased. You can of course look for a hiding place, but the facts speak for themselves. you are biased. Couching that bias behind im so honourable and objective my word is my bond is laughable.
I have never ever claimed to be unbiased. So if you must reply at least try and be honest. |
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Post by thomas on Dec 9, 2022 8:24:25 GMT
you are biased. Couching that bias behind im so honourable and objective my word is my bond is laughable.
I have never ever claimed to be unbiased. So if you must reply at least try and be honest. Brilliant. So now you admit bias like the rest of us mere mortals , we know were we stand with you when you mention that nice man mr starmer and his holier than thou labour party. |
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Post by see2 on Dec 9, 2022 10:14:41 GMT
I have never ever claimed to be unbiased. So if you must reply at least try and be honest. Brilliant. So now you admit bias like the rest of us mere mortals , we know were we stand with you when you mention that nice man mr starmer and his holier than thou labour party. It is sad that you don't even recognise that there are different levels of bias. You for instance are extremely biased as proven by your posts. I am politically biased towards centre-left of politics, but I am even more biased towards honesty, fairness and objectivity. In short political bias rules your world, it doesn't rule mine. |
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Post by totheleft3 on Dec 10, 2022 8:24:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2022 9:18:19 GMT
Brilliant. So now you admit bias like the rest of us mere mortals , we know were we stand with you when you mention that nice man mr starmer and his holier than thou labour party. It is sad that you don't even recognise that there are different levels of bias. You for instance are extremely biased as proven by your posts. I am politically biased towards centre-left of politics, but I am even more biased towards honesty, fairness and objectivity. In short political bias rules your world, it doesn't rule mine. We all have our own particular perspectives, values, and policy preferences, if you can call that bias. But there is a definite difference between tribalists who support a particular party no matter what, and free thinkers who are more loyal to their own principles, values, and policy preferences. The latter's support for any particular party is always conditional upon it reflecting their own values and policy goals. If a party they once supported moves away from those they will cease to support it. The former fail to get this at all, believing we should always support their side no matter what because it is at the very least a lesser evil. The latter though will never sell their souls so cheaply because that only encourages their own values being ignored. I am one of the latter. I supported and even became a member of the Labour party when for a time many of its values and much of its agenda were similar to my own. When it moved away from me and started to behave as if people like me were the enemy, I cancelled my membership and ceased my support, after hanging around for just long enough to be certain that it no longer reflected my values. There are both Labour and Tory tribalists on this forum. But generally the better thinkers are the free thinkers not beholden to any particular party, in my opinion. Free thinkers can exist right across the political spectrum from left to right. So can tribalists. But in spite of being a left winger myself, I have always found free thinkers of any political hue, even right wing ones, more honest debaters than tribalists for the most part. Because they will never compromise on what they truly think to align with any particular party. Tribalists tend to move the goalposts as frequently as their chosen parties do. |
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Post by Pacifico on Dec 10, 2022 18:38:29 GMT
looks like Starmer will be going cap in hand to the SNP - wonder what they would demand for their support?..  |
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