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Post by see2 on Nov 27, 2022 15:49:03 GMT
You will not have the opportunity to sum up Starmer until he has had a term as PM. Everything before that is supposition and propaganda. Ah .Back to labours duplicity again . Close our eyes , never mind about manifestos and promises , and vote for keir , cause starmer and labour know best?
Now where have i heard that before.
No thank you . The uk public want to know what starmers plans are , and whats going in the manifesto. Not endless empty soundbites and weather vane politics .
Keir runs wae the hares and chases wae the hounds , and rarely can such a man ever be trusted with the reigns of power.
Looks like you like you like arguing such rubbish with yourself. Is it your way of trying to convince yourself that you have all the answers? Just curious.
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Post by see2 on Nov 27, 2022 15:50:33 GMT
You will not have the opportunity to sum up Starmer until he has had a term as PM. Everything before that is supposition and propaganda. I always summed him up as the living proof that being a lawyer doesn't require a high intelligence. Nor does posting opinions on a debating forum.
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Post by thomas on Nov 27, 2022 16:09:21 GMT
Insinuating others are biased while claiming you are not is rarely a sign of objectivity.
You just dont have the wit to attempt machiavellian politics see 2. Its often the case wae the low watt light bulbs in new labour.
They rely on the mushroom syndrome of keeping the uk public in the dark while feeding them bullshit. With a healthy dose of selective amnesia thrown in.
I asked not to tell anymore lies about. I have never claimed not to be biased. I only posted that I make a great effort to be objective. Thanks for clearly revealing the extreme level of your bias. prove where i have told lies , or we can yet again dismiss your latest trolling post as the nonsensical rubbish we have come to expect from you.
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Post by thomas on Nov 27, 2022 16:10:33 GMT
Ah .Back to labours duplicity again . Close our eyes , never mind about manifestos and promises , and vote for keir , cause starmer and labour know best?
Now where have i heard that before.
No thank you . The uk public want to know what starmers plans are , and whats going in the manifesto. Not endless empty soundbites and weather vane politics .
Keir runs wae the hares and chases wae the hounds , and rarely can such a man ever be trusted with the reigns of power.
Looks like you like you like arguing such rubbish with yourself. Is it your way of trying to convince yourself that you have all the answers? Just curious. Like others , we have had enough of keir starmer sitting on his hands agreeing with all and sundry. We just want to hear what he stands for and see some meat and flesh put on the bones of labour party policy.
Unil then its a big fat no from the voting public.
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Post by thomas on Nov 27, 2022 16:11:17 GMT
I always summed him up as the living proof that being a lawyer doesn't require a high intelligence. Nor does posting opinions on a debating forum. as you have proved in 620 posts....
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Post by vlk on Nov 27, 2022 17:47:41 GMT
Starmer is boring and people long for the days when politics was boring.
Politics has been a bit too exciting over the past few years.
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2022 8:17:34 GMT
I asked not to tell anymore lies about. I have never claimed not to be biased. I only posted that I make a great effort to be objective. Thanks for clearly revealing the extreme level of your bias. prove where i have told lies , or we can yet again dismiss your latest trolling post as the nonsensical rubbish we have come to expect from you. Your last lie which you applied to me is in the following posted by you to me. --- "Insinuating others are biased while claiming you are not is rarely a sign of objectivity". As I explained earlier I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED I AM NOT BIASED, that is where objectivity comes in. So you owe me an apology, but I don't think you have the balls for that. Being objective is giving credit where it is due and giving criticism where it is due, regardless of political party.
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Post by Montegriffo on Nov 28, 2022 8:20:17 GMT
''Let he who is without bias cast the first aspersion'' ~ Me
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2022 8:20:41 GMT
Nor does posting opinions on a debating forum. as you have proved in 620 posts.... As you have just kindly added to yours in your above post.
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Post by thomas on Nov 28, 2022 8:25:46 GMT
prove where i have told lies , or we can yet again dismiss your latest trolling post as the nonsensical rubbish we have come to expect from you. Your last lie which you applied to me is in the following posted by you to me. --- "Insinuating others are biased while claiming you are not is rarely a sign of objectivity". As I explained earlier I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED I AM NOT BIASED, that is where objectivity comes in. So you owe me an apology, but I don't think you have the balls for that. Being objective is giving credit where it is due and giving criticism where it is due, regardless of political party. Painting yourself as objective , while trying and failing to give the impression you arent biased , is where you go wring. Then when called out on it , you use weasel words .
Still cant see where i have lied. so no apology from me.
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Post by thomas on Nov 28, 2022 8:27:06 GMT
as you have proved in 620 posts.... As you have just kindly added to yours in your above post. do you want to talk politics , or just keep posting nonsense and trolling threads ?
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2022 8:28:10 GMT
Looks like you like you like arguing such rubbish with yourself. Is it your way of trying to convince yourself that you have all the answers? Just curious. Like others , we have had enough of keir starmer sitting on his hands agreeing with all and sundry. We just want to hear what he stands for and see some meat and flesh put on the bones of labour party policy.
Unil then its a big fat no from the voting public.
I assume he is keeping his powder dry. I fully expect him to hit hard prior to the next general election. If he doesn't then your opinions will be shown to be correct.
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2022 8:34:00 GMT
As you have just kindly added to yours in your above post. do you want to talk politics , or just keep posting nonsense and trolling threads ? I often fight fire with fire as in, I posted nonsense in reply to your posted nonsense accusation. It seems you were not bright enough to be able to work out that obvious fact.
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Post by thomas on Nov 28, 2022 8:35:35 GMT
do you want to talk politics , or just keep posting nonsense and trolling threads ? I often fight fire with fire as in, I posted nonsense in reply to your posted nonsense accusation. It seems you were not bright enough to be able to work out that obvious fact. I try not to be rude , but heres my mobile phone see 2 . ( hands it over#)
Phone someone who gives a feck.
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Post by see2 on Nov 28, 2022 8:38:29 GMT
Your last lie which you applied to me is in the following posted by you to me. --- "Insinuating others are biased while claiming you are not is rarely a sign of objectivity". As I explained earlier I HAVE NEVER CLAIMED I AM NOT BIASED, that is where objectivity comes in. So you owe me an apology, but I don't think you have the balls for that. Being objective is giving credit where it is due and giving criticism where it is due, regardless of political party. Painting yourself as objective , while trying and failing to give the impression you arent biased , is where you go wring. Then when called out on it , you use weasel words .
Still cant see where i have lied. so no apology from me.
The point was not about objectivity it was about whether or not I am biased. You can of course look for a hiding place, but the facts speak for themselves.
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