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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 14:37:13 GMT
Have to laugh at the lefties squirming on here ! Wait until labour have to come up with some policies and the sums to back them up?..... I am sure Abucus has the figures ready.....LOL
Boost for Rishi Sunak as poll finds voters prefer him to Sir Keir Starmer as PM – while Labour’s lead slips by nine points in a week (but is still enough for a huge majority) Rishi Sunak handed early boost as poll finds voters favour him over Keir Starmer Redfield & Wilton Strategies survey finds 41% think Mr Sunak is a better PM Poll also shows Labour's lead over Tories has fallen by 9 points since last week But Sir Keir's party still on course for huge majority at a general election
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Post by dappy on Nov 1, 2022 14:42:41 GMT
Must be awful for Labour to only have a 23 point lead ......
Inevitable that some of the "god truss is awful" extreme poll effect unravels - I would be amazed if it stays much above 10%. Feels to me the Tories will be disappointed that the Sunak bounce hasn't been more pronounced. Maybe it will be over time.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 14:45:50 GMT
Must be awful for Labour to only have a 23 point lead ...... Inevitable that some of the "god truss is awful" extreme poll effect unravels - I would be amazed if it stays much above 10%. Feels to me the Tories will be disappointed that the Sunak bounce hasn't been more pronounced. Maybe it will be over time. Which is decreasing daily. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 1, 2022 14:48:09 GMT
Must be awful for Labour to only have a 23 point lead ...... Inevitable that some of the "god truss is awful" extreme poll effect unravels - I would be amazed if it stays much above 10%. Feels to me the Tories will be disappointed that the Sunak bounce hasn't been more pronounced. Maybe it will be over time. An imaginary 23 point lead lol
These statistics are made up, remember the statistics for Brexit the poll shows it's Remain ........ Wrong
Donald Trump/Hilary Clinton, and the polls show it's Clinton as next US President ........ Wrong
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 14:50:53 GMT
Must be awful for Labour to only have a 23 point lead ...... Inevitable that some of the "god truss is awful" extreme poll effect unravels - I would be amazed if it stays much above 10%. Feels to me the Tories will be disappointed that the Sunak bounce hasn't been more pronounced. Maybe it will be over time. An imaginary 23 point lead lol
These statistics are made up, remember the statistics for Brexit the poll shows it's Remain ........ Wrong
Donald Trump/Hilary Clinton, and the polls show it's Clinton as next US President ........ Wrong
Take statistics with a pinch of salt. Lets face it mate even a cardboard cut out of Sunak would get more votes than starmer and would be more charismatic. |
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Post by dappy on Nov 1, 2022 15:04:42 GMT
If you need to keep telling yourself that the Tories are marching towards an inevitable triumph, crack on. No harm done.
Reality is three years ago, few if anyone would believe that by now Labour would have a 20 point plus lead in the polls.
Will that change before the next election - who knows.
At the moment Labour are around 1/3 in the betting to lead the government after the next election. That feels about right to me. If you feel it is wrong, put your money where your mouth is.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 15:08:10 GMT
If you need to keep telling yourself that the Tories are marching towards an inevitable triumph, crack on. No harm done. Reality is three years ago, few if anyone would believe that by now Labour would have a 20 point plus lead in the polls. Will that change before the next election - who knows. At the moment Labour are around 1/3 in the betting to lead the government after the next election. That feels about right to me. If you feel it is wrong, put your money where your mouth is. Labour couldn't win a game of snap with someone who stuttered. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Nov 1, 2022 15:16:05 GMT
An imaginary 23 point lead lol
These statistics are made up, remember the statistics for Brexit the poll shows it's Remain ........ Wrong
Donald Trump/Hilary Clinton, and the polls show it's Clinton as next US President ........ Wrong
Take statistics with a pinch of salt. Lets face it mate even a cardboard cut out of Sunak would get more votes than starmer and would be more charismatic. lol |
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Post by borchester on Nov 1, 2022 15:21:25 GMT
Must be awful for Labour to only have a 23 point lead ...... Inevitable that some of the "god truss is awful" extreme poll effect unravels - I would be amazed if it stays much above 10%. Feels to me the Tories will be disappointed that the Sunak bounce hasn't been more pronounced. Maybe it will be over time. Which is decreasing daily. Well maybe, but according to these guys, the Brothers and Sisters still have a 26% lead, which is actually more than the expected vote for the Tories.
Right now Sunak cannot expect enough seats to fill Ian Blackford's sporran, so if he hopes to keep his job after 2024 he had better come up with something clever
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 15:25:37 GMT
Which is decreasing daily. Well maybe, but according to these guys, the Brothers and Sisters still have a 26% lead, which is actually more than the expected vote for the Tories.
Right now Sunak cannot expect enough seats to fill Ian Blackford's sporran, so if he hopes to keep his job after 2024 he had better come up with something clever
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 20:18:45 GMT
As a Labour supporter and voter, I do not see anything to worry about at all
The recent record leads by Labour in the polls were down to the summer of chaos, followed by the disastrous short premiership of Liz Truss and the appaling mini budget of Kwasi Kwarteng.
But lets face it ... the Tories have been behind in the polls for the whole of 2022, not ahead of Labour once, and with the most recent poll ( 31st October / Opinioum ) putting Labour 16 points ahead, the Tories have all the work to do.
So, with a terrible Financial Statement ahead, more cuts, more austerity, tax rises, more pay cuts for the public sector, a looming recession, high inflation, a continuing energy and cost of living crisis, I feel sure the Tories will have it all sewn up .... NOT.
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2022 21:12:55 GMT
Theres enough time to bury the Truss incident and maybe enough time to find a pre GE carrot after two years of stick.
There will never be enough time to make Starmer look statesmanlike or Rayner to not be a female John Prescott.
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Post by jonksy on Nov 1, 2022 21:17:54 GMT
As a Labour supporter and voter, I do not see anything to worry about at all The recent record leads by Labour in the polls were down to the summer of chaos, followed by the disastrous short premiership of Liz Truss and the appaling mini budget of Kwasi Kwarteng. But lets face it ... the Tories have been behind in the polls for the whole of 2022, not ahead of Labour once, and with the most recent poll ( 31st October / Opinioum ) putting Labour 16 points ahead, the Tories have all the work to do. So, with a terrible Financial Statement ahead, more cuts, more austerity, tax rises, more pay cuts for the public sector, a looming recession, high inflation, a continuing energy and cost of living crisis, I feel sure the Tories will have it all sewn up .... NOT. So what would you suggest should be done? The best starmer can come up with is charge media for stories. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2022 21:36:28 GMT
The Chancellor of a FAIR and progressive government would ensure that the biggest burdon would go to the wealthiest, and the least well off in society should contribute either the least, or not at all.
The Tories always hit the least well off - as they did with The Bedroom Tax, hitting hard WORKING people on low pay, or by taking the Educational Maintainence Allowance off low paid families, or by taking Housing Benefit off young people on low incomes.
Re-evaluating the Council Tax Bands would be a good start, introduce The Mansion Tax
A significant 689,189 residential properties in Great Britain are now worth more than £1 million – the equivalent to one in 42 homes, or 2.4 per cent of all housing stock. The number of £1 million homes is up 22 per cent or +125,928 since the end of 2020
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Post by Bentley on Nov 1, 2022 21:42:34 GMT
The bedroom tax had a function outside of taxing people for the amount of bedrooms they had in their council houses iirc. In principle , is it right that people who have more bedrooms that they need ( in council houses) and block families that need the extra bedrooms?
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