Maybe he should have just asked them to leave..

Totes. My choice if I wear my dress 👗 to work. Not Rishi Sunak or the Conservative party.

If someone puts a boot in your door and moves in, 70% of the struggle is over.

It wont be long before you wont feel at home in your own house and wont be able to arrange things in way that's comfortable for you - ie asking people to stop mumbling or speaking through a scarf.

Get the boot in the door first, then get everything laid out to your satisfaction by continual nagging, punishment etc.

The issue here is should he even be allowed to request common sense be used for a medical exam, or do third world rituals and customs take precedence? Perhaps the final struggle before you decide to move into the shed?

I don't believe in capital punishment. In fact I am very against it. Even for those who wear stuff I don't like.

@ H

The French principle of secularity is the fourth pillar of rhe French Constitution and allows the practice of equality and fraternity.

Simply put, every citizen of the state is equal in public.

That means there is the least possibility of recognising someone else as better or worse, in or out of French social position.


When many other cultures see a woman veiled, they immediately make moral judgements. Pretty soon she is a poor inferior and uneducated female, abused by the male members of her family and probably shackled to a communal bed.

That assumption is not possible when she is dressed like anyone else.

Which allows equality and fraternity.
And allows a secular society where indications of religious differences do not occur publically.

If you acknowledge that you understand this, I will explain further why secularity is the best future for the human race.

In thiq case, there is no veil which prohibits a woman from being heard.

The doctor seems to be using the veil as an excuse.

Let's turn this around.If a young Prince were able to enjoy the freedom of expression you approve of, he would not be hauled across every newspaper the day after he wore a nazi uniform to a private party. Or dont your freedoms extend to everyone?

In fact the idea of "a proper way to dress" is quite British and socially conservative.
Are you a secret leftie libertarian?

Well I wouldn’t call you a thick,to the contrary you are anything but.

However eliciting a reply is like pulling teeth at times.

Do you think he French racist and oppressive by banning the niqab?

Thanks for your patient explanation Oracle75.

Just a couple of observations.


If she doesn't get shackled to the bed, the French State would arrest her and lock her up for wearing the veil .... she gets treated pretty poorly by both .... the bed might even be more comfortable than the French prison cell. I can't imagine feeling very fraternal in a Country that treated people like that for the crime of wearing the 'wrong' type of clothes.





That's not how the British understand the meaning of 'allows' .... that sounds far more like forcing, insisting and dictating ...... things that wouldn't sit easily with a libertarian ...lefty or otherwise. However, even if I'm not (yet) quite convinced, I'd be genuinely interested in further studies as to why 'secularity is the best future for the human race' ..... so don't hold the rest of the class back just because one pupil has failed Part 1.

A compromise, after being told to stop being such political assholes, it isn't big or clever, let the man do his job and stop getting on the populists' nerves.
www.msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/gp-who-asked-muslim-woman-to-remove-veil-allowed-to-return-to-work-but-will-be-monitored/ar-AA1fz228?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f9cb4496c8f44d03af3614f663d78d20&ei=16