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Post by sheepy on Aug 22, 2023 5:54:26 GMT
But that's not actually the truth of the matter is it. He demanded the removal on full pretext, lied to the tribunal and had a history of writing abusive notes about immigrant patients. www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2559.full So doctors don't write factual notes such as ''advised to lose weight for health - advice ignored has gained weight and too obese to walk kids to school and demands a cab '' , ''asthmatic advised to stop smoking- ignored - chest worse than ever'' ' diabetic told to take it seriously but choses not to and pretends it's too hard '', ''drinking problem and told to go to AA but refuses to learn English so will not engage'' etc etc Or are facts what lefties call abusive notes? His job is to be able to diagnose a medical problem and give his medical opinion on the best course of action, if he is having trouble making that diagnosis for a reason it would seem right he should state why, on this occasion it seems he chose to ask for help from the mother, it seems she found that an insult because of her religion and I also doubt after 5 years she had a strong Stoke accent. So it may have been for some other reason. It seems the actual patient couldn't speak for themselves either. Probably a tad frustrating. I am not sure why the husband was more concerned with the removal of the veil than the medical condition of one of his children. Seems a bit odd even if you are religious, it was hardly in public. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Aug 22, 2023 5:56:17 GMT
Glad he's not my GP. He's been lucky that the medical establishment circled the wagons around him. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 22, 2023 6:13:25 GMT
Glad he's not my GP. He's been lucky that the medical establishment circled the wagons around him. That gave me a vision of another spaghetti western. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 22, 2023 6:21:39 GMT
Does the objection to the niqab Andrew constitute racism?l Of course it does when the removal was requested on a false pretext. I was asking in broader terms. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 22, 2023 6:29:25 GMT
I do like how the BMJ, which is actually just a Trade Union who is currently in dispute with a Conservative Government, thinks that the guys political affiliation is relevant to a complaint about his professional standards..
Would any Conservative supporter get a fair trial from the BMJ?
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Post by sheepy on Aug 22, 2023 6:36:44 GMT
I do like how the BMJ, which is actually just a Trade Union who is currently in dispute with a Conservative Government, thinks that the guys political affiliation is relevant to a complaint about his professional standards.. Would any Conservative supporter get a fair trial from the BMJ? Probably not as far as the woke are concerned from what I can gather. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 22, 2023 7:52:15 GMT
I do like how the BMJ, which is actually just a Trade Union who is currently in dispute with a Conservative Government, thinks that the guys political affiliation is relevant to a complaint about his professional standards.. Would any Conservative supporter get a fair trial from the BMJ? Probably not as far as the woke are concerned from what I can gather. Afraid I don’t do the whole woke lefty righty thing,woke grates on me I've always done woke,I woke up this morning just like I always do but one day I won’t that’s life. This is about a clash of cultures and any attempt to counter that is dismissed as racism and then descends in to the absurd. Lets face it you can find racism in anything if you look hard enough take this statement from Walters post in this thread. isn’t this a symbol of the white middle class protecting their own whilst making demeaning references to native Americans who were practically eradicated as a people by the superior tactics of the white man. Ergo Walter is a racist displayed by the unconscious bias displayed in his above statement. No you’re alright Walt I don’t believe that at all but isn’t this where we are today? |
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Post by see2 on Aug 22, 2023 17:23:15 GMT
Of course it does when the removal was requested on a false pretext. I was asking in broader terms. As far as I'm aware the niqab is not a religious requirement, it has more to do with culture than religion even though some times it is warn by females as a part of their religion. Possibly after being indoctrinated to do so as children. A head to toe coverage was sometimes worn long before Islam came on the scene. Worn by men and women for one of two reasons. 1. As a defense against sand storms. 2. As a confusion to hinder Bedouin raiders who delighted in stealing the females. I recall a little story about a Bedouin tribesman who lifted a woman onto his saddle during one raid, once she was revealed he finished up being chased around his home camp by a mad woman screaming, 'you took me, now do your ******* duty. |
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Post by wapentake on Aug 22, 2023 17:40:59 GMT
I was asking in broader terms. As far as I'm aware the niqab is not a religious requirement, it has more to do with culture than religion even though some times it is warn by females as a part of their religion. Possibly after being indoctrinated to do so as children. A head to toe coverage was sometimes worn long before Islam came on the scene. Worn by men and women for one of two reasons. 1. As a defense against sand storms. 2. As a confusion to hinder Bedouin raiders who delighted in stealing the females. I recall a little story about a Bedouin tribesman who lifted a woman onto his saddle during one raid, once she was revealed he finished up being chased around his home camp by a mad woman screaming, 'you took me, now do your ******* duty. Bet she had a face like a bag of spanners  Yes it is a difference in culture,a vast difference and I don’t blame the French for banning the niqab,it’s not racist but if I went to live in a Muslim country I wouldn’t expect them to alter their culture for ours. In fact when some European gets caught with alcohol and suffers their Stone Age punishment I have little sympathy,they know where they are and what it’s like and should conform or not go there. The same (should) apply here,a Christian nation nominally or not,if you wish to live here you conform to our customs and mores or leave simple as if that’s against your beliefs go where your beliefs hold sway but it shouldn’t be here. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2023 17:45:07 GMT
But that's not actually the truth of the matter is it. He demanded the removal on full pretext, lied to the tribunal and had a history of writing abusive notes about immigrant patients. www.bmj.com/content/379/bmj.o2559.full So doctors don't write factual notes such as ''advised to lose weight for health - advice ignored has gained weight and too obese to walk kids to school and demands a cab '' , ''asthmatic advised to stop smoking- ignored - chest worse than ever'' ' diabetic told to take it seriously but choses not to and pretends it's too hard '', ''drinking problem and told to go to AA but refuses to learn English so will not engage'' etc etc Or are facts what lefties call abusive notes? The doctor was found to be a liar so his derogatory notes using less than objective language are unacceptable too as they clearly showed he was biased against immigrants. As a doctor he has to treat all equally. No apology for confusing you with these facts. |
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Post by Steve on Aug 22, 2023 17:49:27 GMT
I do like how the BMJ, which is actually just a Trade Union who is currently in dispute with a Conservative Government, thinks that the guys political affiliation is relevant to a complaint about his professional standards.. Would any Conservative supporter get a fair trial from the BMJ? Those of us that actually read and understood the plain English of the BMJ article know that the decision was not by the BMJ but by the relevant statutory body, the General Medical Council www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/4328696 |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 22, 2023 17:59:19 GMT
wapentake
In my opinion our customs and mores are that the State doesn't decree what clothes you can or cannot wear. Big Brother governing what's in your wardrobe is a step too far. If we're a nominally Christian country, then thank the Lord we've not descended to the authoritarian levels of France as far as dictating what's allowable dress and what isn't.
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Post by wapentake on Aug 22, 2023 18:06:22 GMT
wapentake In my opinion our customs and mores are that the State doesn't decree what clothes you can or cannot wear. Big Brother governing what's in your wardrobe is a step too far. If we're a nominally Christian country, then thank the Lord we've not descended to the authoritarian levels of France as far as dictating what's allowable dress and what isn't. So you’re saying the French are oppressive and racist? |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 22, 2023 18:13:05 GMT
wapentake In my opinion our customs and mores are that the State doesn't decree what clothes you can or cannot wear. Big Brother governing what's in your wardrobe is a step too far. If we're a nominally Christian country, then thank the Lord we've not descended to the authoritarian levels of France as far as dictating what's allowable dress and what isn't. Clearly H doesnt understand the concept of secularity. |
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Post by Hutchyns on Aug 22, 2023 18:15:06 GMT
Oppressive compared to Britain on this particular issue, yes obviously. Whether they're motivated by racism I wouldn't know, but they're no defenders of individual liberty that's for sure, if they even want to regulate what you can or can't put on in the mornings.
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