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Post by oracle75 on Aug 16, 2023 23:19:35 GMT
The last thing you want is to end cooperation with the French. Send the illegals back to their original country. Be good neighbours with the neighbour countries for a peaceful life. That is refoulement and is illegal. |
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 16, 2023 23:29:33 GMT
I find it incomprehensible that all the attention is on France.
Migrants also enter from Spain, the Netherlands and North Africa.
France is not responsible for them. They have zero ties with France. No ID, no work record, no family, no residency.
They dont exist in any provable way in France.
This manic kneejerk that all the answers are in France is a populist myth.
Imagine a French or British security officer seeing men carrying a boat down a beach.
What law are they breaking?
Take them into custody and try to ID them and they can tell any story they can make up.
So they are allowed to go free and are untraceable.
Your borders are YOURS now. You deal with it.
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Post by jonksy on Aug 17, 2023 6:32:18 GMT
Idiot alert...^^^
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 17, 2023 6:34:53 GMT
I find it incomprehensible that all the attention is on France. Migrants also enter from Spain, the Netherlands and North Africa. We are not giving Spain, the Netherlands and North Africa £500 Million to police the issue. Personally I dont think we should be giving France £500 Million either but that is another issue. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 17, 2023 6:42:18 GMT
I find it incomprehensible that all the attention is on France. Migrants also enter from Spain, the Netherlands and North Africa. We are not giving Spain, the Netherlands and North Africa £500 Million to police the issue. Personally I dont think we should be giving France £500 Million either but that is another issue. Follow the money then, everybody seems to be making fortunes from it, well according to certain posters who think it is all good, but never mention how it has financially been of benefit to them personally. No it seems they are left using psychology instead. |
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Post by Tinculin on Aug 17, 2023 6:54:27 GMT
Nobody wants these people and so your options are fairly limited:
1) Do nothing.
2) Ship them back to France or another country.
3) Stop them reaching English shores in the first place.
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Post by andrewbrown on Aug 17, 2023 7:04:51 GMT
Nobody wants these people and so your options are fairly limited: 1) Do nothing. 2) Ship them back to France or another country. 3) Stop them reaching English shores in the first place. 4) Improve the asylum claim processing so that those who are genuine can be granted and those that are not can be deported. Doesn't rely on anyone else. |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 17, 2023 8:10:27 GMT
Nobody wants these people and so your options are fairly limited: 1) Do nothing. 2) Ship them back to France or another country. 3) Stop them reaching English shores in the first place. 4) Improve the asylum claim processing so that those who are genuine can be granted and those that are not can be deported. Doesn't rely on anyone else. How? - when the last Labour Government tried to restrict the time allowed for appeals to 2 weeks that was found to be illegal. Some countries totally ban asylum requests from specific countries - do you believe that would be legal in the UK?. |
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Post by Tinculin on Aug 17, 2023 8:22:53 GMT
The entire treaty/law was written in a different age and needs rewriting.
We should adopt a points system, remove ourselves from whatever treaties prevents us from implementing laws that are meaning we as a country are exploited by illegal immigrants & criminal cartels who have no genuine claim for asylum.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 17, 2023 8:24:02 GMT
Nobody wants these people and so your options are fairly limited: 1) Do nothing. 2) Ship them back to France or another country. 3) Stop them reaching English shores in the first place. 4) Deem it an issue of national security. Use security forces to neutralise the criminal traffickers . Arrest all illegal immigrants who use criminal gangs to illegally enter the UK . Consider that France is weaponising immigrants in the same way as Belarus . |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 17, 2023 8:46:26 GMT
I wonder if Bubbles knows the backstory to Mali and other African countries which are currently unstable. If he isnt careful he will have a large number of mineral wealthy countries supping with Putin and wonder where all those arms pointing at Europe INCLUDING THE UK suddenly came from. Putin already has that. Didn't you see Nigeriens burning French flags last week? |
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 17, 2023 8:50:27 GMT
Just dwindle down French fishing licenses in UK waters. Let them get all angry again and start barging boats. If we can't fuck illegals off out of our waters then we can do the next best thing and fuck the French off out of our waters. Also, the UK shouldn't be helping France in places like Mali, we should severe our military support for their security & operations. After all, the French are allowing potential terrorists to drift across the Channel willy nilly, how can the French expect the UK to keep their interests safe when it isn't reciprocal. Oh yes thats a brilliant idea Do you know what percentage of all UK caught Shellfish is either exported to France or passes through France ? The answer is 80%, yes EIGHTY PERCENT of a very important, very valuable commodity which keeps lots of fishermen and boats in this country busy. You start a trade war or a fishing war with France and then see who will come off worse Do you know what percentage of illegal immigrants enter the UK from France, even after we've paid them over hundreds of millions of pounds? The cost of this and housing these illegals is probably worth more than our shellfish industry. It's time the UK told the French what's what here, instead always appeasing the arrogant frogs. |
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Post by Tinculin on Aug 17, 2023 9:15:45 GMT
Nobody wants these people and so your options are fairly limited: 1) Do nothing. 2) Ship them back to France or another country. 3) Stop them reaching English shores in the first place. 4) Deem it an issue of national security. Use security forces to neutralise the criminal traffickers . Arrest all illegal immigrants who use criminal gangs to illegally enter the UK . Consider that France is weaponising immigrants in the same way as Belarus . I mean, criminal gangs being harshly dealt with, I doubt would meet little resistance. Regarding the migrants? What are you going to do with the Tens of thousands of migrants you arrest each month? Where are you going to put them? If you’re going to ‘ship’ then anywhere, where? At what cost? What if that country refuses to take part? For example, Unlike dinghy’s rocking up on the shores of England, if we just shipped people back to France, they could, and very likely would impound any ferries or transport ships participating. How do we handle that? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 17, 2023 9:32:14 GMT
The last thing you want is to end cooperation with the French. Send the illegals back to their original country. Be good neighbours with the neighbour countries for a peaceful life. That is refoulement and is illegal. A state has sovereignty, so we just lealise it. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 17, 2023 9:34:45 GMT
Stop being such a jerk. You hardly show yourself more intelligent, with your two word reply. |
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