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Post by oracle75 on Aug 15, 2023 17:07:06 GMT
We should stop paying the EUSSR divorce payments then FFS.
EUSSR blocks a deal which would allow Britain to send Channel migrants back to France, leaked documents reveal.
Brussels has ruled out a deal which would allow Channel migrants to be sent back to France, leaked documents show.
Official records indicate the refusal came from one of European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen's most trusted aides.
German politician Bjoern Siebert told senior British officials the bloc will refuse to consider signing a post-Brexit 'returns agreement', the Mail can disclose today.
Mr Siebert, who is Mrs von der Leyen's head of cabinet, delivered the defiant rejection at a face-to-face meeting with the Cabinet Office's National Security Adviser Sir Tim Barrow earlier this year, the papers show.
It means Britain will remain unable to return small boat migrants to France for the foreseeable future.
But you had such a deal and decided you didnt want it! The EU cannot spend its time keepinf up with requests and demands you rejected when you left and have now understood them to be preferable to the shite arrogant promises your Liar in Chief promised. The halls of Brussels must be ringing with laughter. I know mine are. Grow up and deal with what you voted for. It is only because the EU is polite and grown up that it has anything at all to say to you. You need them more than they need you, eh Bifsteak?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 17:22:30 GMT
Tough luck aint it ?
The United Kingdom threw away a lot when leaving the EU, including co-operation on illegal migrants and asylum seekers, including The Dublin Agreement.
and so, France has no legal responsibility OR any obligation to take any illegal migrants who used France as a stepping stone to get to the UK.
So WTF are you gonna do about it Answer: Nothing
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Post by bancroft on Aug 16, 2023 17:25:39 GMT
Ascension Island beckons next, sending them back to France was never going to work.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 16, 2023 17:29:19 GMT
Ascension Island beckons next, sending them back to France was never going to work. Sending them back to France never worked when we were in the EU, so rather a forlorn hope now. Offshore processing is the only option.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 16, 2023 19:32:42 GMT
Ascension Island beckons next, sending them back to France was never going to work. Sending them back to France never worked when we were in the EU, so rather a forlorn hope now. Offshore processing is the only option. Indeed. It’s comical that the ex remainers pretend that France would have been more helpful had we still been a member of the club.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 16, 2023 20:08:45 GMT
Just dwindle down French fishing licenses in UK waters. Let them get all angry again and start barging boats. If we can't fuck illegals off out of our waters then we can do the next best thing and fuck the French off out of our waters.
Also, the UK shouldn't be helping France in places like Mali, we should severe our military support for their security & operations. After all, the French are allowing potential terrorists to drift across the Channel willy nilly, how can the French expect
the UK to keep their interests safe when it isn't reciprocal.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 16, 2023 20:13:46 GMT
The last thing you want is to end cooperation with the French. Send the illegals back to their original country. Be good neighbours with the neighbour countries for a peaceful life.
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Post by buccaneer on Aug 16, 2023 20:15:38 GMT
The last thing you want is to end cooperation with the French. Send the illegals back to their original country. Be good neighbours with the neighbour countries for a peaceful life. There isn't much coopertion with the French though. It's all take take take, with them.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 16, 2023 20:23:12 GMT
The last thing you want is to end cooperation with the French. Send the illegals back to their original country. Be good neighbours with the neighbour countries for a peaceful life. There isn't much coopertion with the French though. It's all take take take, with them. Yes, cooperation by definition, would require France to cooperate.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Aug 16, 2023 20:38:26 GMT
The last thing you want is to end cooperation with the French. Send the illegals back to their original country. Be good neighbours with the neighbour countries for a peaceful life. There isn't much coopertion with the French though. It's all take take take, with them. We would look pretty stupid if the French cut off our trading link to the mainland Europe. Besides I think President Macron has been pretty decent with us. Johnson the arsehole pissed off the French, but Rishi has made peace. I really do not fancy paying inflated prices just so Johnson's ego is satisfied. When you run a country you need to be pragmatic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 21:13:04 GMT
Ascension Island beckons next, sending them back to France was never going to work. I have not looked into this story, but knowing a bit about Ascension Island, I know this is a plan to be ridiculed, and a non-starter. Ascension is VERY remote, and there are no commercial flights, only RAF flights which take over 9 hours from RAF Brize Norton. There is no indigenous population on Ascension Island, most civillians are from St Helena, 800 miles away and who work either for the government, RAF, NASA or the USAF. There is not an unlimited supply of workers from St Helena, partly because the total population is less than 4,500, but also flights between St Helena and Ascension are once per month. The costs involved would be tremendous, with staff for any immigration centre almost certainly having to be brought in from either the UK or ? ( your guess is as good as mine ) Another hare - brained scheme from a nonsensical government
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 21:15:03 GMT
Ascension Island beckons next, sending them back to France was never going to work. I have not looked into this story, but knowing a bit about Ascension Island, I know this is a plan to be ridiculed, and a non-starter. Ascension is VERY remote, and there are no commercial flights, only RAF flights which take over 9 hours from RAF Brize Norton. There is no indigenous population on Ascension Island, most civillians are from St Helena, 800 miles away and who work either for the government, RAF, NASA or the USAF. There is not an unlimited supply of workers from St Helena, partly because the total population is less than 4,500, but also flights between St Helena and Ascension are once per month. The costs involved would be tremendous, with staff for any immigration centre almost certainly having to be brought in from either the UK or ? ( your guess is as good as mine ) Another hare - brained scheme from a nonsensical government Sounds similar to transportation to Australia many years ago. They seem to have done really well for themselves as a country and have also dealt with the sea arrivals and stopped it completely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 21:18:07 GMT
Just dwindle down French fishing licenses in UK waters. Let them get all angry again and start barging boats. If we can't fuck illegals off out of our waters then we can do the next best thing and fuck the French off out of our waters. Also, the UK shouldn't be helping France in places like Mali, we should severe our military support for their security & operations. After all, the French are allowing potential terrorists to drift across the Channel willy nilly, how can the French expect the UK to keep their interests safe when it isn't reciprocal. Oh yes thats a brilliant idea Do you know what percentage of all UK caught Shellfish is either exported to France or passes through France ? The answer is 80%, yes EIGHTY PERCENT of a very important, very valuable commodity which keeps lots of fishermen and boats in this country busy. You start a trade war or a fishing war with France and then see who will come off worse
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 16, 2023 23:11:30 GMT
Ascension Island beckons next, sending them back to France was never going to work. Sending them back to France never worked when we were in the EU, so rather a forlorn hope now. Offshore processing is the only option. Not the only option. Other countries have set a time limit on how long it takes to process a migrant. 6 months usually. This stops the overcrowding and the disgraceful politicking that happens around their detainment.
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Post by oracle75 on Aug 16, 2023 23:16:58 GMT
I wonder if Bubbles knows the backstory to Mali and other African countries which are currently unstable. If he isnt careful he will have a large number of mineral wealthy countries supping with Putin and wonder where all those arms pointing at Europe INCLUDING THE UK suddenly came from.
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