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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2023 13:35:55 GMT
I'm not outraged, I'm not even surprised. The police ignoring burglaries, car crime, theft etc, while going in mob handed on very soft targets seems par for the course these days. I'm reminded of army veteran Darren Brady who was arrested by a gang of police who invaded his home put him in handcuffs and dragged him off to the police station, his crime? He allegedly caused someone 'anxiety' for retweeting someone else's message on Twitter! You see? Burglaries etc forget it it's too much like hard work, but causing alleged offence or thought crime, oh yes the woke police are on it like a flash. Yeah and I’m reminded of this lad His dad was in the military RAF sqdn leader as it happens,and his kid wasn’t ratted and returned to the safety of their home where the parent got their phone out to film and send to a newspaper when they’d picked her up at the families request because she was drunk and at risk,still they’re suing for compo. This kid lost his life because he and his parents and incidentally case notes from another senior doctor clearly stating this drug was dangerous to him and in any event he wasn’t suffering a psychosis were administered anyway,I doubt but for their ability to communicate what went wrong anything would’ve been done,they didn’t seek compo for themselves but education so no other (hopefully) suffered the same. www.hee.nhs.uk/our-work/learning-disability/current-projects/oliver-mcgowan-mandatory-training-learning-disability-autismLooks like manslaughter to me by negligence. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 14, 2023 21:12:02 GMT
Further to this incident.
West Yorkshire police have released a statement in which they said: “In relation to an incident in Leeds on Monday, where a 16-year-old girl was arrested on suspicion of a homophobic public order offence, West Yorkshire Police has now reviewed the evidence and made the decision to take no further action. [No kidding]
However the girls mother says she intends to sue the police.
Assistant Chief Constable Oz Khan said: “We do appreciate the understandable sensitivities around incidents involving young people and neurodiversity and we are genuinely committed to developing how we respond to these often very challenging situations.”
Can you believe that bullshit. FFS we don't want the police to talk about neurodiversity! The public don't want the police to be psychiatrists or sociologists, they want the police to be police, sensible police who have the ability to asses a situation and apply a modicum of common fuckin sense.
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Post by Orac on Aug 14, 2023 23:35:47 GMT
They make a mistake, miss-diagnose their error and then offer an apology which strongly suggests they have not only miss-understood what they did wrong, but also that they intend to correct perversely in another wrong direction in future.
It's like talking to a bad AI
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 15, 2023 0:26:39 GMT
I'm pro cop, no honestly I am, but I do wonder how often this sort of thing happens. Lets face it, the only reason no further action was taken and the assistant chief constable made a public statement was because the girls mother recorded everything. I'm willing to bet the police officers involved in this incident are not very popular with their Sgt or Inspector right now.
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Post by Orac on Aug 15, 2023 8:35:17 GMT
I'm pro cop, no honestly I am, but I do wonder how often this sort of thing happens. Lets face it, the only reason no further action was taken and the assistant chief constable made a public statement was because the girls mother recorded everything. I'm willing to bet the police officers involved in this incident are not very popular with their Sgt or Inspector right now. It's hard to see where this nonsense is coming from, but is possible to put bounds on it. The core of the problem seems that someone in authority is telling policemen that it is part of their job to act as lesbian respect enforcement. Several policemen acted in a way that suggested strongly they really felt it was part of their proper job to arrest a sixteen- year-old girl for not sufficiently respecting lesbianism to meet some legal hurdle. The weird and worrying thing is that the elected part of the UK government (ie people who are notionally in charge) have made their position clear on these sort of matters several times quite loudly. The elected portion of the Uk government has said the British police should not be arresting people for non-crimes, nor should they be implicitly terrorising the UK public by making 'lists' of non-criminals. However , the bizarre and sinister practice seems to go on and on, regardless of what our notional government says. The worrying interpretation is that UK police has become a publicly funded, but privately controlled, enforcement arm of some un-accountable managerial clique and that this clique now feels empowered to brazenly ignore instructions from the government and people of the UK. If this looks to be the case, we need to seriously consider closing down the entire operation and re-hiring the staff under new management (take off and nuke the site from orbit) |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 15, 2023 12:52:30 GMT
I'm pro cop, no honestly I am, but I do wonder how often this sort of thing happens. Lets face it, the only reason no further action was taken and the assistant chief constable made a public statement was because the girls mother recorded everything. I'm willing to bet the police officers involved in this incident are not very popular with their Sgt or Inspector right now. It's hard to see where this nonsense is coming from, but is possible to put bounds on it. The core of the problem seems that someone in authority is telling policemen that it is part of their job to act as lesbian respect enforcement. Several policemen acted in a way that suggested strongly they really felt it was part of their proper job to arrest a sixteen- year-old girl for not sufficiently respecting lesbianism to meet some legal hurdle. The weird and worrying thing is that the elected part of the UK government (ie people who are notionally in charge) have made their position clear on these sort of matters several times quite loudly. The elected portion of the Uk government has said the British police should not be arresting people for non-crimes, nor should they be implicitly terrorising the UK public by making 'lists' of non-criminals. However , the bizarre and sinister practice seems to go on and on, regardless of what our notional government says. The worrying interpretation is that UK police has become a publicly funded, but privately controlled, enforcement arm of some un-accountable managerial clique and that this clique now feels empowered to brazenly ignore instructions from the government and people of the UK. If this looks to be the case, we need to seriously consider closing down the entire operation and re-hiring the staff under new management (take off and nuke the site from orbit) Maybe it's all part of the so called ESG framework (Environmental, social and governance) which more and more companies and organisations including the police are signing up to. ESG, another US import is woke on steroids, it's full of words like inclusion, diverse and sustainability. It encourages groupthink while discouraging opposing agendas and free speech. I would say the police are showing all the symptoms of an organisation who are committed to the ESG framework. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 16, 2023 16:25:39 GMT
I'm pro cop, no honestly I am, but I do wonder how often this sort of thing happens. Lets face it, the only reason no further action was taken and the assistant chief constable made a public statement was because the girls mother recorded everything. I'm willing to bet the police officers involved in this incident are not very popular with their Sgt or Inspector right now. You say that but in this perverse, woke world I wonder how many officers would be scared not to act when there's a possible suggestion of racism or homophobia.
So they arrest an autistic 16 year old because they don't want to be accused of ignoring homophobia.
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Post by Orac on Aug 16, 2023 16:46:09 GMT
I'm pro cop, no honestly I am, but I do wonder how often this sort of thing happens. Lets face it, the only reason no further action was taken and the assistant chief constable made a public statement was because the girls mother recorded everything. I'm willing to bet the police officers involved in this incident are not very popular with their Sgt or Inspector right now. You say that but in this perverse, woke world I wonder how many officers would be scared not to act when there's a possible suggestion of racism or homophobia.
So they arrest an autistic 16 year old because they don't want to be accused of ignoring homophobia.
..and that's where we (should) come in. The public provide no protection to police that are mangled by this deranged machinery, and so, we get the loyalty from the police you might expect. The police are doing what we (in effect) tell them to do - they are bowing to lunacy because they have no protection at all, and so, no choice. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 16, 2023 20:51:52 GMT
And again, society gets the policing it deserves.
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Post by Bentley on Aug 16, 2023 21:06:39 GMT
This copper is expected to deal with situations varying from apprehending a violent individual to attending murder scenes and possibly even traffic fatalities .
She deserves more than being expected to tolerate insults from a little shit, autistic or not.
If you want coppers to be respected then disrespect should not be tolerated .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2023 21:12:51 GMT
This copper is expected to deal with situations varying from apprehending a violent individual to attending murder scenes and possibly even traffic fatalities . She deserves more than being expected to tolerate insults from a little shit, autistic or not. If you want coppers to be respected then disrespect should not be tolerated . Except that she said, "You remind me of my Lesbian Nana", which did not disrespect anyone at all, did it? Even if she had directly called her a lesbian, how is that a sign of disrespect in today's Britain where they have a "Pride" event every day? |
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Post by Orac on Aug 16, 2023 21:16:46 GMT
This copper is expected to deal with situations varying from apprehending a violent individual to attending murder scenes and possibly even traffic fatalities . She deserves more than being expected to tolerate insults from a little shit, autistic or not. If you want coppers to be respected then disrespect should not be tolerated . There is a subtle human talent of understanding when a rule matters (at all) and when it really doesn't matter (at all). A sixteen year old female comparing you unfavorably to her grandmother falls firmly in the latter category and a shitty nineteen year old man telling you he could fuck you up, probably (almost certainly) falls into the former. The chronic failure of judgment here suggests strongly to me that this woman isn't really emotionally capable of doing her job. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 16, 2023 21:19:14 GMT
This copper is expected to deal with situations varying from apprehending a violent individual to attending murder scenes and possibly even traffic fatalities . She deserves more than being expected to tolerate insults from a little shit, autistic or not. If you want coppers to be respected then disrespect should not be tolerated . Except that she said, "You remind me of my Lesbian Nana", which did not disrespect anyone at all, did it? Even if she had directly called her a lesbian, how is that a sign of disrespect in today's Britain where they have a "Pride" event every day? “You remind me of my homosexual uncle “. Get pissed , make yourself a nuisance and tell the copper that who puts you in the van . Of course it was an insult. Adultery is quite legal. Tell the next copper that pulls you up for speeding that you might have shagged his wife . |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 16, 2023 21:25:00 GMT
This copper is expected to deal with situations varying from apprehending a violent individual to attending murder scenes and possibly even traffic fatalities . She deserves more than being expected to tolerate insults from a little shit, autistic or not. If you want coppers to be respected then disrespect should not be tolerated . There is a subtle human talent of understanding when a rule matters (at all) and when it really doesn't matter (at all). A sixteen year old female comparing you unfavorably to her grandmother falls firmly in the latter category and a shitty nineteen year old man telling you he could fuck you up, probably (almost certainly) falls into the former. The chronic failure of judgment here suggests strongly to me that this woman isn't really emotionally capable of doing her job. Indeed. You wasn’t there. You didn’t witness the context. ”West Yorkshire Police said a relative of the girl had earlier called to say she was intoxicated in Leeds city centre, after which they took her home.” Her relative called the police because she was pissed . The coppers took her home. She insulted the copper. She kicked off when it blew up in her face . The coppers used enough bodies to take her to the nick without hurting her . |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 17, 2023 5:55:37 GMT
This copper is expected to deal with situations varying from apprehending a violent individual to attending murder scenes and possibly even traffic fatalities . She deserves more than being expected to tolerate insults from a little shit, autistic or not. If you want coppers to be respected then disrespect should not be tolerated . Except that she said, "You remind me of my Lesbian Nana", which did not disrespect anyone at all, did it? Even if she had directly called her a lesbian, how is that a sign of disrespect in today's Britain where they have a "Pride" event every day? They became the thought police. Arrested for a thought. |
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