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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 11, 2023 10:58:41 GMT
If it makes you happy. And they're doing what the public wants.
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 11, 2023 11:02:34 GMT
The Police have lost the Pink Vote - all those hours spent at gay pride parades for nowt...  |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 11, 2023 11:02:59 GMT
If it makes you happy. And they're doing what the public wants. Only on your say so and it does make me happy because that is what they are. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 11, 2023 11:03:49 GMT
The trouble is, the good people who want an orderly, rational society don't tend to form activist pressure groups because, in this nation's recent history, it was never remotely necessary to do so. It was one of our key efficiencies that working people could get on with their jobs without having to bother themselves about such issues. This is no longer the case True. The ‘establishment’ doesn’t see good and bad people any more . The victim and perpetrator are just two cheeks on the arse…unless it’s one of their pet projects. If you hire a servant, but don't offer him any protection for following your instructions, then he is going to end up with 'split loyalties' The police try to do their job and find they consequently have multiple politically motivated inquires shoved up their rectum and, as a result, good, honest people are offered no protection and lose their jobs. The public sit on their hands while this atrocity goes on and on for decades and then complain when their police force starts wearing frocks. What did you expect? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 11, 2023 12:41:48 GMT
These police are an absolute disgrace, nothing more than uniformed bullies. Seven police to arrest one traumatised 16 year old girl her crime - she said someone looked like her lesbian nana! These low grade woke warriors should not be disciplined, they should be sacked. We see this all the time, police ignoring serious offences while going in mob handed on soft targets. This is from Sky news Australia, yes it's gone global.
This is the reason pubic faith in the police has never been lower...
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Post by Bentley on Aug 11, 2023 13:00:55 GMT
True. The ‘establishment’ doesn’t see good and bad people any more . The victim and perpetrator are just two cheeks on the arse…unless it’s one of their pet projects. If you hire a servant, but don't offer him any protection for following your instructions, then he is going to end up with 'split loyalties' The police try to do their job and find they consequently have multiple politically motivated inquires shoved up their rectum and, as a result, good, honest people are offered no protection and lose their jobs. The public sit on their hands while this atrocity goes on and on for decades and then complain when their police force starts wearing frocks. What did you expect? Indeed. The police themselves will either be indoctrinated or recruit people already indoctrinated. I suspect that the public has generally changed for the worse too in many ways , so TSM might be right. |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 11, 2023 13:04:00 GMT
Since when? they are public servants, something completely different. 1829.
“The police are the public, and the public are the police”, and that they are only members of the public “who are paid to give full-time attention to duties that are incumbent on every citizen”
Sir Robert Peel. He was no mug . I suppose that explains the ‘ citizens arrest ‘ too. Never thought about that before . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 11, 2023 13:18:18 GMT
If you hire a servant, but don't offer him any protection for following your instructions, then he is going to end up with 'split loyalties' The police try to do their job and find they consequently have multiple politically motivated inquires shoved up their rectum and, as a result, good, honest people are offered no protection and lose their jobs. The public sit on their hands while this atrocity goes on and on for decades and then complain when their police force starts wearing frocks. What did you expect? Indeed. The police themselves will either be indoctrinated or recruit people already indoctrinated. I suspect that the public has generally changed for the worse too in many ways , so TSM might be right. As I said, the police are the public. That's the founding principle of British Policing. And it contains people of every gender, ethnicity, sexuality, religion and political belief. They reflect the full range of opinions and attitudes present in society.
The law is made by the people we vote for. Policing policy is set down by the people we vote for via the Home Office.
Through our attitudes, behaviour and voting habits we have made policing what it is.
So it's absurd to suggest that society gets anything other than the policing it deserves.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 11, 2023 13:27:19 GMT
Indeed. The police themselves will either be indoctrinated or recruit people already indoctrinated. I suspect that the public has generally changed for the worse too in many ways , so TSM might be right. As I said, the police are the public. That's the founding principle of British Policing. And it contains people of every gender, ethnicity, sexuality, religion and political belief. They reflect the full range of opinions and attitudes present in society.
The law is made by the people we vote for. Policing policy is set down by the people we vote for via the Home Office.
Through our attitudes, behaviour and voting habits we have made policing what it is.
So it's absurd to suggest that society gets anything other than the policing it deserves.
More bullshit, technically they work for the crown, but are paid from the public purse. |
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Post by Handyman on Aug 11, 2023 13:30:01 GMT
The Police have lost the Pink Vote - all those hours spent at gay pride parades for nowt...  |
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Post by Bentley on Aug 11, 2023 13:34:13 GMT
Indeed. The police themselves will either be indoctrinated or recruit people already indoctrinated. I suspect that the public has generally changed for the worse too in many ways , so TSM might be right. As I said, the police are the public. That's the founding principle of British Policing. And it contains people of every gender, ethnicity, sexuality, religion and political belief. They reflect the full range of opinions and attitudes present in society.
The law is made by the people we vote for. Policing policy is set down by the people we vote for via the Home Office.
Through our attitudes, behaviour and voting habits we have made policing what it is.
So it's absurd to suggest that society gets anything other than the policing it deserves.
The hangmen were members of the public .Does that mean murderers deserved to hang in those days but not now ? Just stop oil are members of the public .Does that mean we deserve to be stuck in a traffic jam ? The public vote for politicians and the politicians shape society but that doesn’t mean Mrs Brown deserves to be burgled or Mr Smith deserved mugged . It certainly doesn’t mean they deserve a poor service from the police . |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Aug 11, 2023 14:28:34 GMT
Absolutely.
But people's ideas of what constitutes good policing are different.
For example, Red Rum thinks that JSO are legitimate protesters with a right to protest and that the police should facilitate that. Whereas Red Rackham thinks that they should be dragged away and thrown in a cell.
And the police themselves have to walk a line between the two.
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Post by Orac on Aug 11, 2023 14:34:46 GMT
Absolutely.
But people's ideas of what constitutes good policing are different.
For example, Red Rum thinks that JSO are legitimate protesters with a right to protest and that the police should facilitate that. Whereas Red Rackham thinks that they should be dragged away and thrown in a cell.
And the police themselves have to walk a line between the two.
I'm not sure I agree that 'walking a line between the two' is a legitimate approach. Some section of the UK public are criminals, but the police shouldn't walk a line between their views and the rest of the public. However, I do agree the nonsense that blocking roads is legitimate is not entirely the police's doing - some managerial clique in the home office appears to also support it. There is no significant section of the public that think it should be allowed. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 11, 2023 16:54:35 GMT
Absolutely.
But people's ideas of what constitutes good policing are different.
For example, Red Rum thinks that JSO are legitimate protesters with a right to protest and that the police should facilitate that. Whereas Red Rackham thinks that they should be dragged away and thrown in a cell.
And the police themselves have to walk a line between the two.
Protestors have the right to protest and rightly so. They do not have the right to stop people going about their lawful business. Blocking the public highway is an offence under the Highways Act 1980 which clearly states: It is an offence to wilfully obstruct free passage along the public highway. Yet the police protect protestors who block the public highway, they sit down with them, sympathise with them and bring them drinks. The police do not have to walk a line between anything. It's the job of the police to implement the law without fear or favour. But these days they seem to choose which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Aug 12, 2023 17:52:07 GMT
Yesterday a police spokesperson was trying to give the impression that the 16 year old traumatised autistic girl arrested by no fewar than 'seven' police officers and was dragged kicking and screaming from her home, was not in fact arrested for calling a female copper a lesbian and that footage on social media only provided a limited snapshot of the circumstances of the incident. However, the police later confirmed the girl was arrested for making a homophobic comment, she called very thin skinned female copper a lesbian which is of course crime of the century. My god, if that copper cant hack being called a bloody lesbian then she's in the wrong job. She should be in a cotton wool lined box in a soundproof room well away from the nasty world. Police officers drag autistic girl from home for saying cop 'looked like her lesbian nana'. metro.co.uk/2023/08/11/leeds-police-officers-drag-screaming-autistic-girl-from-her-home-19318112/?ico=just-in_article_must-read |
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