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Post by johnofgwent on Sept 20, 2023 23:52:51 GMT
Why are people so against a policy to save lives? because its not about saving lives snd everybody knows it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:30:11 GMT
Who said nobody would be killed if the speed limit changes to 20mph? Again a floundering statement.Maybe you should try explaining that to the unfortunates girls parents rr. Good luck with that one. What are you on about, get the context of the statement before blustering in.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:32:09 GMT
Nobody does, they should be subject to the same rules as anyone else but policing it is another matter. I would, mind, rather get hit by a bike going at 30mph than a car or van. Well, you shouldn't be walking on the road if you don't want to get hit by car. Maybe they should float over the roads, a silly answer to a silly statement. People get run over on zebra crossings as well, maybe we should ban them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:33:33 GMT
At the end of the day people will see the sense in 20mph and things will settle down again. Why not 10 mph? If that just saves one more life it’s worth it right ? There used to be 'play' streets where no cars were allowed. 10mph would be safer again and maybe we will see that one day, one step at a time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:47:23 GMT
None of that has to do with 20mph speed limits. Are you happy with using extreme cases to support your view on generality? In general 20mph is safer that 30mph, simple really. Not true. The new highway code has created a culture where pedestrians think they have a right of way over vehicles that does not exist in law or reality, and this twenty bollox has created a culture of recklessness in the pedestrian population. The number of accidents in Bath has significantly increased, they published the figures, being one of a few places brave enough to do so. Monmouth reports the same. And as i said, at lower speeds you don't bounce off you go under The other problem is driver distraction. Six lollipop ladies have been struck by vehicles in Newport this week as motorists spend precioys time looking at speedometers instead of the road. One of those has a fractured hip. The supervisor of Newport's crossing patrols is making a formal complaint that Drakefords antics have clearly endangered her employees lives….. The new highway code has created a rule whence people have the right of way, Motorists are now supposed to 'assess' whether a pedestrian is looking to cross a road, especially at junctions and give way. What do you mean by recklessness? People will behave in the way that they always have and be subject to the same distractions as they always have are you suggesting that ordinary members of the public going about their daily business should be 'forced' to ignore any distractions they may bump into? a bit Orwellian that is. Drivers are obliged by law to concentrate on the road and avoid distraction, after all they are the ones in a 1+ ton killing machine, have you not heard of driving without due care and attention, there is no such rule for pedestrians. This 'looking at speedometers' is a myth spread by those who wish to speed or are you saying that drivers do not have time to look at their speedometer even though it is front and centre and very large in front of them, ridiculous. Modern vehicle all have speed limiters that can be operated by a push of a button, usually on a steering wheel to make it easier for the driver to engage, I use mine regularly but a lot of drivers ignore it. 20mph saves lives.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:47:47 GMT
Why are people so against a policy to save lives? because its not about saving lives snd everybody knows it. Another conspiracy theory.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 8:49:31 GMT
Why not 10 mph? If that just saves one more life it’s worth it right ? There used to be 'play' streets where no cars were allowed. 10mph would be safer again and maybe we will see that one day, one step at a time. That’s the spirit . Maybe a 5 mph limit soon. 🤡
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Post by buccaneer on Sept 21, 2023 9:24:59 GMT
Well, you shouldn't be walking on the road if you don't want to get hit by car. Maybe they should float over the roads, a silly answer to a silly statement. People get run over on zebra crossings as well, maybe we should ban them. I prefer your option: Horse and cart, and we can live in caves too, to save energy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 10:22:04 GMT
There used to be 'play' streets where no cars were allowed. 10mph would be safer again and maybe we will see that one day, one step at a time. That’s the spirit . Maybe a 5 mph limit soon. 🤡 How old are you?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 10:23:24 GMT
Maybe they should float over the roads, a silly answer to a silly statement. People get run over on zebra crossings as well, maybe we should ban them. I prefer your option: Horse and cart, and we can live in caves too, to save energy. Did I mention a horse and cart. You have no serious argument again 20mph in built up areas so you prattle.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 11:36:04 GMT
That’s the spirit . Maybe a 5 mph limit soon. 🤡 How old are you? Old enough to spot a clown.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 11:50:53 GMT
Old enough to spot a clown. I take it you have lots of mirrors then.
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Post by Bentley on Sept 21, 2023 12:00:55 GMT
Old enough to spot a clown. I take it you have lots of mirrors then. No Coco. I just read your posts .
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Post by bancroft on Sept 21, 2023 13:00:31 GMT
This is about Nanny state versus personal responsibility, period.
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Post by jonksy on Sept 21, 2023 13:19:22 GMT
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