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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 11:43:48 GMT
Thay was never the claim. The claim was that if Ukrainians could do it properly so could the dinghy people. As for all roads leading to the UK that's nonsense as well. The uk has agreed to take quotas of Ukrainian refugees. Ukrainian refugees are not breaking international law en-mass to get around that. It's orderly and legal. Where does this notion that random., perhaps unidentifiable, Sudanese people have to get specifically into the UK come from? As far as i'm aware Ukranian people aren't afforded this service. As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 11:45:59 GMT
The uk has agreed to take quotas of Ukrainian refugees. Ukrainian refugees are not breaking international law en-mass to get around that. It's orderly and legal. Where does this notion that random., perhaps unidentifiable, Sudanese people have to get specifically into the UK come from? As far as i'm aware Ukranian people aren't afforded this service. As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. So they have applied for asylum in other deemed safe countries then? I don't think so, they are purposely avoiding it and heading this way with a purpose. |
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Post by Orac on Aug 13, 2023 11:47:04 GMT
The uk has agreed to take quotas of Ukrainian refugees. Ukrainian refugees are not breaking international law en-mass to get around that. It's orderly and legal. Where does this notion that random., perhaps unidentifiable, Sudanese people have to get specifically into the UK come from? As far as i'm aware Ukranian people aren't afforded this service. As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. That was a careful caveat People crossing borders from safe countries without permission are breaking national law. So are you being dishonest now? |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 13, 2023 11:49:32 GMT
As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. That was a careful caveat So are you now being dishonest now?Isn't that the norm for the bleading heart brigade? |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 13, 2023 11:53:42 GMT
The uk has agreed to take quotas of Ukrainian refugees. Ukrainian refugees are not breaking international law en-mass to get around that. It's orderly and legal. Where does this notion that random., perhaps unidentifiable, Sudanese people have to get specifically into the UK come from? As far as i'm aware Ukranian people aren't afforded this service. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. So you tend to disagree with these people then?
Protesters gather outside Bibby Stockholm demanding an end to the barge - after migrants aboard the vessel were disembarked due to Legionella bacteria discovery
Protesters with placards stood outside the Bibby Stockholm in Portland, Dorset
Many claimed 'Portland imported disease' after Legionella found on the vessel
Nearby the barge in Portland, Dorset, dozens of demonstrators could be seen holding placards saying 'Time to bin the barge' and 'Portland Port imports disease'
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 12:03:11 GMT
As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. So they have applied for asylum in other deemed safe countries then? I don't think so, they are purposely avoiding it and heading this way with a purpose. The ones coming here want to apply here. The ones wanting to go to other countries apply there. As in line with the law. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 12:05:58 GMT
So they have applied for asylum in other deemed safe countries then? I don't think so, they are purposely avoiding it and heading this way with a purpose. The ones coming here want to apply here. The ones wanting to go to other countries apply there. As in line with the law. No Zany the law has been manipulated, they can apply for asylum in the first safe country they reach, if refused they can have the right to try elsewhere. That has been bypassed because of the sheer numbers involved. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 12:07:11 GMT
That was a careful caveat So are you now being dishonest now?Isn't that the norm for the bleading heart brigade? Nope. International law is very clear on it. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 12:07:59 GMT
Isn't that the norm for the bleading heart brigade? Nope. International law is very clear on it. Not when you want to manipulate it for some reason. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Aug 13, 2023 12:08:32 GMT
@zany: You could do that or you could look up the stats for yourself.
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 12:09:49 GMT
As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law.If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. So you tend to disagree with these people then?
Protesters gather outside Bibby Stockholm demanding an end to the barge - after migrants aboard the vessel were disembarked due to Legionella bacteria discovery
Protesters with placards stood outside the Bibby Stockholm in Portland, Dorset
Many claimed 'Portland imported disease' after Legionella found on the vessel
Nearby the barge in Portland, Dorset, dozens of demonstrators could be seen holding placards saying 'Time to bin the barge' and 'Portland Port imports disease'
Where do these people state that international law is being broken? Or am I supposed to disagree with something else they are claiming. Perhaps you can be more specific. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 12:11:10 GMT
Isn't that the norm for the bleading heart brigade? Nope. International law is very clear on it. I'm away with friends so ill check that later but I'm sure you are wrong. |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 12:11:44 GMT
The amusing bit is, I learnt that from the care4calais website. Well in all honesty I knew anyway, but they even had to admit it.hilarious.
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 12:12:38 GMT
@zany: You could do that or you could look up the stats for yourself. [bryeah but I'm not the one claiming the UK is an easy target. I don't think we are |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 12:24:41 GMT
@zany: You could do that or you could look up the stats for yourself. [bryeah but I'm not the one claiming the UK is an easy target. I don't think we are Well all the ones arriving by boat, by lorry and every other means of entering illegally do, but no we should listen to you after allowing it to continue for decades and when people kick off there is a blanket amnesty. Feck me you would have to be complete moron not to realise you have been manipulated. |
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