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Post by wapentake on Aug 13, 2023 12:25:17 GMT
I go to all the trouble of providing a link and then you can't be arsed to read it. Tut 
Contact UK Visas and Immigration
You can phone the free Ukraine helpline if you need help:
Telephone: + 44 808 164 8810
Telephone: +44 (0)175 390 7510 (if you cannot contact UK 0808 numbers)
Monday to Friday, 9am to 5:30pm.
but that's no good Dan. It's only for Ukrainians. My friend is Sudanese. I think the point is the Ukranian outlook as a whole is as we were decades ago the outlook from many other places is back in the Stone Age. I suppose you might call racism but it isn’t it’s factual, in the Indian sub continent in the past few weeks a father killed his daughter for disappearing for a couple of days and then wheeled her body through the village on his motor bike,a brother killed his sister because of marriage plans, another beheaded his sister and openly carried her head through the village,in another Christian women were stripped naked paraded by a mob and serially raped. Now you could say bad things happen here,they do but they’re not regarded as the norm. Which is why the UN convention needs an overhaul and we need to create safe areas in the places of origin where they can be helped. We can absorb numbers in to our society always have but we don’t need our society radically changed by such behaviour and numbers it’s bad enough as it is. |
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Post by jonksy on Aug 13, 2023 12:28:29 GMT
Isn't that the norm for the bleading heart brigade? Nope. International law is very clear on it. It's being manipulated zany... |
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Post by Pacifico on Aug 13, 2023 17:14:32 GMT
As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law.If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. So you tend to disagree with these people then?
Protesters gather outside Bibby Stockholm demanding an end to the barge - after migrants aboard the vessel were disembarked due to Legionella bacteria discovery
Protesters with placards stood outside the Bibby Stockholm in Portland, Dorset
Many claimed 'Portland imported disease' after Legionella found on the vessel
Nearby the barge in Portland, Dorset, dozens of demonstrators could be seen holding placards saying 'Time to bin the barge' and 'Portland Port imports disease'
If the council were switched on they would keep putting Legionella bacteria in the water supply for the barge - that solves the problem of asylum seekers being dumped on them. |
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Post by sandypine on Aug 13, 2023 17:30:15 GMT
The uk has agreed to take quotas of Ukrainian refugees. Ukrainian refugees are not breaking international law en-mass to get around that. It's orderly and legal. Where does this notion that random., perhaps unidentifiable, Sudanese people have to get specifically into the UK come from? As far as i'm aware Ukranian people aren't afforded this service. As said about a billion times now, they are not breaking international law. If you are proposing we change international law so that refugees (asylum seekers) can only come by invitation. That's a different matter. Of course they are breaking the law. There is no right to travel freely across the globe seeking asylum, the convention agreed that no sanction should be normally taken against refugees who may have to cross several borders in order to facilitate their escape. They are still breaking the law and especially in any safe country they pass through. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Aug 13, 2023 17:42:39 GMT
So you tend to disagree with these people then?
Protesters gather outside Bibby Stockholm demanding an end to the barge - after migrants aboard the vessel were disembarked due to Legionella bacteria discovery
Protesters with placards stood outside the Bibby Stockholm in Portland, Dorset
Many claimed 'Portland imported disease' after Legionella found on the vessel
Nearby the barge in Portland, Dorset, dozens of demonstrators could be seen holding placards saying 'Time to bin the barge' and 'Portland Port imports disease'
If the council were switched on they would keep putting Legionella bacteria in the water supply for the barge - that solves the problem of asylum seekers being dumped on them. or they'll just pay someone to do it, maybe the same ones who burn down wonky houses. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 19:21:52 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 19:26:01 GMT
Eh? but that hasn't got anything in common with what you originally said. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 19:34:12 GMT
[bryeah but I'm not the one claiming the UK is an easy target. I don't think we are Well all the ones arriving by boat, by lorry and every other means of entering illegally do, but no we should listen to you after allowing it to continue for decades and when people kick off there is a blanket amnesty. Feck me you would have to be complete moron not to realise you have been manipulated. That assumes they come to the Uk because they think its the easiest one to remain in. I disagree, they come here for very many reasons. More go to France, even more to Germany. The facts don't stack. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 19:36:08 GMT
Eh? but that hasn't got anything in common with what you originally said. I don't know what you think I first said, but from my point of view this addresses exactly what I said and what you challenged? |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 19:39:53 GMT
Eh? but that hasn't got anything in common with what you originally said. I don't know what you think I first said, but from my point of view this addresses exactly what I said and what you challenged? No it doesn't. it ignores the fact that if they have been refused asylum in a safe country then they are free to try elsewhere, which ones have been refused? |
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 19:50:58 GMT
Migrant
Someone who has moved to another country for other reasons, such as to find work.
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 19:52:27 GMT
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 19:54:41 GMT
I don't know what you think I first said, but from my point of view this addresses exactly what I said and what you challenged? No it doesn't. it ignores the fact that if they have been refused asylum in a safe country then they are free to try elsewhere, which ones have been refused? You added that condition I did not. They have not been refused asylum in a safe country. They have not applied for asylum in another country, neither do they need to apply for asylum in any given country or the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th or 5th country they pass through. |
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Post by zanygame on Aug 13, 2023 19:55:35 GMT
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Post by sheepy on Aug 13, 2023 19:56:43 GMT
No it doesn't. it ignores the fact that if they have been refused asylum in a safe country then they are free to try elsewhere, which ones have been refused? You added that condition I did not. They have not been refused asylum in a safe country. They have not applied for asylum in another country, neither do they need to apply for asylum in any given country or the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th or 5th country they pass through. Well as you are obviously talking out of your backside and cannot tell the difference between a refugee and a migrant you are spouting pointless nonsense. |
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