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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 24, 2023 10:10:34 GMT
Some may have noticed in another thread my surprise at having stumbled across the BBC Pidgin News channel, www.bbc.com/pidgin. Today's top story:
"Top Tori
11 pipo die as school roof fall ontop girls volleyball team as dem dey use am one hour wey don pass"
I understand the Pidgin news service is directed towards West Africa, Nigeria in particular.
The BBC World Service broadcasts in over forty languages and provides local language transmission of BBC television news in Arabic, Hindi, Japanese, Persian Punjabi and Russian.
Its budget is around £400 million, 75% funded through the UK license fee.
The BBC justifies this expenditure as follows:
"The World Service broadcasts and distributes news and other content in a range of genres aimed primarily at users outside the UK. It provides services in English and other languages on TV, radio and digital platforms.
The World Service makes a global contribution to the BBC’s mission to act in the public interest, serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.
In particular, the World Service contributes to the BBC’s international news mission by seeking to address the global gap in the provision of trusted international news, by providing accurate, impartial and independent news and programming of the highest quality. It should aim to provide a distinctive service tailored to its audience’s need, and maximise reach of all services in their target markets, subject to value for money. In doing so, the World Service aims to provide journalism that contributes to accountability and good governance, to improve the welfare and economic development of citizens in developing countries."
Worth £400 million of taxpayers money?
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 24, 2023 10:24:12 GMT
Worth £400 million of taxpayers money? [/div][/quote] Maybe you should ask that of people who live under repressive regimes and have long regarded it as a vital lifeline. I've known a few such people, over the years. An old friend (we worked together for most of the 80s) has only recently had to flee with her family from Iran to Egypt (via Israel). The World Service was the only way she had of knowing what was actually going on in her own country. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 24, 2023 12:15:46 GMT
I've never heard of this pidgin English channel on the World Service but I'm not that surprised. As far as I'm concerned the World Service should not receive any taxpayer funding whatsoever so it shouldn't be part of the BBC. The BBC is one of the main causes of the problem we have with illegal immigration so its global reach should be limited by law.
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 24, 2023 12:42:38 GMT
The BBC is one of the main causes of the problem we have with illegal immigration so its global reach should be limited by law. Really? I'm pretty sure YouTube, TikTok, and Social media have a far wider viewership around the world than the crusty old Beeb. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 24, 2023 13:44:31 GMT
None of these have been set up with the objective of making the UK appear an attractive place.
As the BBC argues, and politicians seem to accept, the World Service is an instrument of 'soft power'. A 2020 Ipsos MORI survey found that awareness of BBCWS is strongly linked to a range of positive perceptions of the UK. The Soft Power 30 index of global soft power cites the BBCWS as a major institution important to the UK government’s use of soft power.
Soft power, it may be recalled, is often defined as “the ability to affect others to obtain the outcomes one wants through attraction rather than coercion or payment”.
In other words the BBC 'invests' these taxpayer funds in an effort to make people in other countries think better of the UK. There can't help but be more than a few who think well enough of us that they are willing to make strenuous efforts to get here.
The BBCWS is a contributory 'pull factor' especially in the 'developing' world, which is where the bulk of WS channels are dedicated. All the European and other western services were closed down twenty years ago in order to redirect focus and investment on the Asian, African and Latin American 'markets'.
It's never been entirely clear why.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 25, 2023 11:29:25 GMT
Some may have noticed in another thread my surprise at having stumbled across the BBC Pidgin News channel, www.bbc.com/pidgin. Today's top story:
"Top Tori
11 pipo die as school roof fall ontop girls volleyball team as dem dey use am one hour wey don pass"
I understand the Pidgin news service is directed towards West Africa, Nigeria in particular.
The BBC World Service broadcasts in over forty languages and provides local language transmission of BBC television news in Arabic, Hindi, Japanese, Persian Punjabi and Russian.
Its budget is around £400 million, 75% funded through the UK license fee.
The BBC justifies this expenditure as follows:
"The World Service broadcasts and distributes news and other content in a range of genres aimed primarily at users outside the UK. It provides services in English and other languages on TV, radio and digital platforms.
The World Service makes a global contribution to the BBC’s mission to act in the public interest, serving all audiences through the provision of impartial, high-quality and distinctive output and services which inform, educate and entertain.
In particular, the World Service contributes to the BBC’s international news mission by seeking to address the global gap in the provision of trusted international news, by providing accurate, impartial and independent news and programming of the highest quality. It should aim to provide a distinctive service tailored to its audience’s need, and maximise reach of all services in their target markets, subject to value for money. In doing so, the World Service aims to provide journalism that contributes to accountability and good governance, to improve the welfare and economic development of citizens in developing countries."
Worth £400 million of taxpayers money?
I often sample what Radio 4 are saying at random times. After 1 am it is the World Service. The last sample, I listened to out of incredulity.
You see they do a business report, and this report spent ages and ages with all these different journalists discussing Their twitter logo. The depth of academic enquiry into the aesthetics of it was mind boggling. I've never heard such "educated" people investigate something so bloody trivial and idiotic as this. You could imagine the level of discussion with children in a playground. It was a weird juxtaposition in on the one hand sounding like top experts, and on the other, their subject of interest being so utterly remedial. It was very much like those books written by Douglas Adams. He predicted this would happen way back in the 70s, but no one ever saw what he predicted as being a serious view on the future. They imagined he was joking. well FF to 2023 and we see it on the BBC World Service. World service? Did you get the last joke?
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Post by besoeker3 on Jul 25, 2023 12:37:19 GMT
I often sample what Radio 4 are saying at random times. After 1 am it is the World Service. The last sample, I listened to out of incredulity.
You see they do a business report, and this report spent ages and ages with all these different journalists discussing Their twitter logo. The depth of academic enquiry into the aesthetics of it was mind boggling. I've never heard such "educated" people investigate something so bloody trivial and idiotic as this. You could imagine the level of discussion with children in a playground. It was a weird juxtaposition in on the one hand sounding like top experts, and on the other, their subject of interest being so utterly remedial. It was very much like those books written by Douglas Adams. He predicted this would happen way back in the 70s, but no one ever saw what he predicted as being a serious view on the future. They imagined he was joking. well FF to 2023 and we see it on the BBC World Service. World service? Did you get the last joke?
If you don't like it just turn it off. So simple, innit? But no, you will continue to denigrate others. |
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Post by bancroft on Jul 25, 2023 12:56:58 GMT
Yet we part fund it by the license fee.
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Post by patman post on Jul 25, 2023 14:25:17 GMT
I guess all countries like the idea that their news output will be preferred to others consumed by waiting international audiences. The BBC World Service used to be majority funded by the Foreign Office, but then the govt transferred the cost to the BBC, but still regards it as part of the UK’s “soft diplomacy”. Wiki has a list of countries’ radio stations broadcasting to other countries… en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_radio_broadcasters |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 25, 2023 23:39:47 GMT
I often sample what Radio 4 are saying at random times. After 1 am it is the World Service. The last sample, I listened to out of incredulity.
You see they do a business report, and this report spent ages and ages with all these different journalists discussing Their twitter logo. The depth of academic enquiry into the aesthetics of it was mind boggling. I've never heard such "educated" people investigate something so bloody trivial and idiotic as this. You could imagine the level of discussion with children in a playground. It was a weird juxtaposition in on the one hand sounding like top experts, and on the other, their subject of interest being so utterly remedial. It was very much like those books written by Douglas Adams. He predicted this would happen way back in the 70s, but no one ever saw what he predicted as being a serious view on the future. They imagined he was joking. well FF to 2023 and we see it on the BBC World Service. World service? Did you get the last joke?
If you don't like it just turn it off. So simple, innit? But no, you will continue to denigrate others. It saddens me how grown men can find the most trivial of things to debate, night after night. They spend hours talking about Twitter and Elon Musk as if he were Superman. The kids get excited about every tweet he makes. They have lost the plot on the World Service. Can't you cut the electricity to the building and save the nation from it? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 26, 2023 7:13:32 GMT
I used to find it useful for something to listen to when working at shit o clock at night waiting for databases to back up or when driving to and from clients. I admit i found its image of requiring its broadcasters to wear a light linen jacket strangely comforting in a world of madmen such as took over the Cardiff Radio Trust and globalised it in a not good way.
Looking at how much they spend on other supposedly key issues nobody cares about and looking at how much labour in Cardiff Bay squander on vanity projects i can see many other things need pruning, some with a chainsaw, some with a guillotine, ahead of this.
And it’s always worthwhile finding out how the next batch of illegals speak so you’ll know to deck them for taking the piss out of you as they queue in front of you at Lidl
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Post by wapentake on Jul 26, 2023 7:28:24 GMT
The beeb has its faults but does do some good stuff,if you want to see how far some media can fall look no further than Rupert Murdochs empire.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 9:44:42 GMT
The beeb has its faults but does do some good stuff,if you want to see how far some media can fall look no further than Rupert Murdochs empire. Rupert's empire doesn't fleece the taxpayer to exist. Most people feel compelled to buy the licence, which is nothing more than a tax. Sky lovers have a choice, AND have to buy a licence. It's unjust. |
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 26, 2023 10:00:04 GMT
Sky is great.
If you want to pay a minimum of 75p per day instead of 44p for channels with hardly any UK content, fill your boots.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 26, 2023 10:05:53 GMT
I used to find it useful for something to listen to when working at shit o clock at night waiting for databases to back up or when driving to and from clients. I admit i found its image of requiring its broadcasters to wear a light linen jacket strangely comforting in a world of madmen such as took over the Cardiff Radio Trust and globalised it in a not good way. Looking at how much they spend on other supposedly key issues nobody cares about and looking at how much labour in Cardiff Bay squander on vanity projects i can see many other things need pruning, some with a chainsaw, some with a guillotine, ahead of this. And it’s always worthwhile finding out how the next batch of illegals speak so you’ll know to deck them for taking the piss out of you as they queue in front of you at Lidl I was thinking to myself as I shop in this large supermarket local to me when was the last time I saw an immigrant work there. I think it was at least 5 years ago when an Indian woman was on the checkout. She lasted about one month. We're still an English town. It has an air of civility about it. Even the kids that you constantly complain about in your area, over here they are polite and harmless. |
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