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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 27, 2023 11:15:52 GMT
I don't have all this satellite TV, freeview, digital radio etc. I have one radio by the side of me that does MW/LW/SW/FM and FM is the only proper quality out of those, and on the FM band it is all shit. In fact the most unlistenable radio station on the entire FM bans is Heart FM. Why I listen to it is I have to shop for supplies in a local hardware shop and it is intolerable. No wonder people are brain dead. It's like all the DJs are on coke. I'm sure the Soviet union had it better than this country regarding radio. Fine. Move on and stop rubbishing.people all the time. It's not fine. It is atrocious. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Jul 27, 2023 11:42:24 GMT
Fine. Move on and stop rubbishing.people all the time. It's not fine. It is atrocious. And, yet again, ignore it if you don't like it. It really is that simple. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 27, 2023 11:47:03 GMT
It's not fine. It is atrocious. And, yet again, ignore it if you don't like it. It really is that simple. If you ignore everything you will end up with sensory deprecation and go mad. There is only one intelligent way to proceed,and that is to confront it. Where is your fighting spirit? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 27, 2023 12:32:57 GMT
So in response to Sid's earlier posting...
"The very first thing that struck me about the - Opening Post - was the £400 Million which is stated as been the cost of running an online news service for West Africa, I immediately called this into question."
No such statement was made, I suggest you read it again but more attentively this time.
"I reckon that ... Dan Dare ... has picked up some missleading information, probably from one of those anti BBC, right wing populist websites or so called "news providers"."
No, the primary source was the BBC itself in the form of its annual report for 2022/23.
"The TOTAL cost to the government for BBC World Service is £254 million per year, that is for operating the entire BBC World Service."
I'm unsure where you found this, but according to the BBC accounts £290 million was spent on the BBC World Service Operating Licence in 2022/23 including content, distribution and general support costs (2021/22: £277 million).
But even that is not the total cost of funding the service. In addition to raiding the license fee, the BBC will receive a government 'World Service grant' of £ 103 million in 2022/23.
So total funding amounts to £393 million, of which 75% comes from the license fee (as noted earlier).
"Been a world power can mean many things, a military power, an economic power, or cultural power, and no country projects its cultural power better than the UK."
The folks who run the show in Hollywood might disagree.
"I have stated this before on these boards, but all of us, Left leaning or Right leaning, should be proud of our BBC, it is the most listened to and most trusted source of news and information on the plannet, and it is the most important tool there is for promoting British culture."
But you'll find very little British 'culture' in evidence on any of the forty-odd World Service channels, they tend to focus almost entirely on local news and happenings elsewhere e.g. Ukraine. Take a look for example at the Pidgin channel I linked to earlier.
To return to the license fee, the £290 million represents just under 8% of the BBC's 22/23 license fee income and, perhaps more to the point, represents the license fees now being paid by almost two million pensioners hrom whom the BBC removed the over-75s fee concession.
I doubt that the fact that BBC is using the money to funds programmes in Amharic, Bengali, Chinese (Cantonese and Mandarin), Hausa, Igbo, Tegulu and many others not to mention of course Pidgin, will come as much consolation to the pensioners who are in fact funding them. Soft power or not.
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Post by dappy on Jul 27, 2023 12:53:20 GMT
I am struggling to get to Dan's figure but my reading of the BBC accounts (pg53) is £249m from license fee and £103m for dedicated projects direct from government. I understand that the funding of this service was moved from general taxation to the license fee in Osbourne's time as chancellor. As far as I know the BBC is obliged by its arrangement with government to provide the service.
I can see that it provides a vital service providing objective news (with a UK position slant) to people all over the world, in so doing adding to UK soft power and the UK's perception. Whether the benefits justify the cost I have no idea. I daresay Dan doesn't either.
The link to older people's license fees is Dan's silly shit stirring which deserves to be ignored (as so often) such silliness undermines the validity of his other points
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 27, 2023 13:01:38 GMT
Is it really important for the UK's projection of soft power that the 2.3 million listeners to the Pidgin channel get their very own service?
We could then go through the other forty-odd channels and ask the same question.
I can tell you if I were one of the over-75s who got cancelled by the BBC I'd be hopping mad to learn my license money was going to fund the World Service. Who wouldn't?
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 27, 2023 14:10:09 GMT
..2.3 million listeners to the Pidgin channel get their very own service? 2.3 million listeners in ANY language is worth a broadcaster catering for. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Jul 27, 2023 14:35:46 GMT
And, yet again, ignore it if you don't like it. It really is that simple. If you ignore everything you will end up with sensory deprecation and go mad. There is only one intelligent way to proceed,and that is to confront it. Where is your fighting spirit? Fight spirit is one thing and can be constructive. Continuously denigrating others, which it what you do, is totally negative. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 27, 2023 15:13:01 GMT
..2.3 million listeners to the Pidgin channel get their very own service? 2.3 million listeners in ANY language is worth a broadcaster catering for. GB News would kill for ratings like that. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Jul 27, 2023 15:23:57 GMT
They should offer a service in Pidgin for West Africa. While they're at it, they should look into opening up a Chinese service. The BBC World Service has a miniscule audience of 2.7 million there even though it broadcasts in both Cantonese and Mandarin. Or what about Eritrea, the BBC's audience is a piddling 0.7 million there.
Go for it Nige!
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Post by walterpaisley on Jul 27, 2023 15:33:44 GMT
"GB News" is aimed at the UK.
"The World Service" is aimed at everyone else.
There's a subtle clue in the names.
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Post by dappy on Jul 27, 2023 15:35:05 GMT
You seem particularly agitated about the pidgin service. Not immediately clear why that language differs to other languages in your head. Once again without knowing the marginal cost of providing that service, the number of prospective listeners and the projective benefits of that particular service, it is a little hard to assess whether it is worthwhile. Is this one of the projects funded directly by Government or one of those more generally funded from the license fee?
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Post by Montegriffo on Jul 27, 2023 15:44:51 GMT
"GB News" is aimed at the UK. "The World Service" is aimed at everyone else. There's a subtle clue in the names. Ah, I thought the GB stood for Going Broke. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 27, 2023 15:57:20 GMT
If you ignore everything you will end up with sensory deprecation and go mad. There is only one intelligent way to proceed,and that is to confront it. Where is your fighting spirit? Fight spirit is one thing and can be constructive. Continuously denigrating others, which it what you do, is totally negative. Negativity is needed for improvement. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 27, 2023 16:01:22 GMT
"GB News" is aimed at the UK. "The World Service" is aimed at everyone else. There's a subtle clue in the names. Well that is odd since those it featured are almost exclusively African, Indian or from New York. Sometimes you might get Africa on Thames in it as well. I've never heard of anyone from Japan ever interviewed, to name one important economy. |
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