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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 24, 2023 23:15:17 GMT
That's not what I said. Controlling people can be a good and honourable thing. Say you ran a firm and your employees had shares in it and the control of the people had made them a them a mint. You know, like the ace football manager kind of guy.
Our problem in this country is the ultra dense electorate.
What are you on about ? The Chinese social credit system is a cynical way to cancel individuals that do not tow the CCP line and reward that ones that do. Its a system of direct social control. Am A Chinese MMA fighter has been effectively cancelled. He can’t travel and he can’t work . Why? Because he exposed the bullshit state supported’ Chinese martial arts ‘ by defeating the ‘ masters ‘ easily . If you dont toady to the CCP you are cancelled. That isn’t a good and honourable thing . I've not come across what you mention, but its not as if this country is any shining example. There will always be wrong'uns. The thing is that overall people who live there will tell you there is no fear of the government. You have really got to want to piss the government off to get unwarranted attention. BBC man was on the radio today about it. He said he went over to find out about the Wuhan lab and he was spied on, tailed , denied access here there and everywhere. You see they knew he was coming and knew why he was there. The BBC though have created some very dishonest reports that even the foreign minister had it out with them.
It's just different cultural conventions. Some things you are expected to do and some things are taboo. Best advice is when in Rome do as the Romans do and you'll be fine. The typical cases that are not are the political activist types. I bet your fighter had some strong political views.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 25, 2023 5:46:47 GMT
Yep. And a virtue signalling war supporter. It's just the usual left wing cognitive dissonance coming out. When starmer fails to win the next general election , we can give zany and co three cheers for their service to the uk electorate in helping open eyes about that festering contradictory sore that is the new labour party.... Thomas, your record seems to have got stuck. Give it a nudge.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 25, 2023 5:48:24 GMT
Yep. And a virtue signalling war supporter. It's just the usual left wing cognitive dissonance coming out. So annoying when those lefties wont stay in the box you designed.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 25, 2023 5:52:07 GMT
Yep. And a virtue signalling war supporter. It's just the usual left wing cognitive dissonance coming out. So annoying when those lefties wont stay in the box you designed. You're so far within the box you designed for yourself that you're unable to think outside of it.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 25, 2023 5:54:08 GMT
And that we should all listen to Hans Blix who spent years finding nothing and is therefore either an establishment shill or an incompetent who couldn't find his arse with both hands. If Zany mentions Hans Blix one more time I'm blocking him. I'd agree, that particular bit of truth is so inconvenient. Hans Blix, against the invasion and yet writing a report that a thousand tons of WMD were unaccounted for. Its a real pain, the truth.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 25, 2023 5:56:28 GMT
So annoying when those lefties wont stay in the box you designed. You're so far within the box you designed for yourself that you're unable to think outside of it. I would hope so, I spent a good while designing it. The whole read about the subject, check facts, learn the history, thingy. Its saved me from talking crap many times, you should try it sometime.
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Post by thomas on Jul 25, 2023 5:57:23 GMT
It wouldn't take Machiavelli to out smart you Donald duck could do it. Saddam guilty of having WMD, he used the bloody stuff to kill 5,000 Kurds and god knows how many Iranians. Jeez its like training monkeys. lolz. i stand suitable crushed Niccolo.
If you are going to stretch the elastic of WMD , from something that could hit us in 45 minutes , to any sort of weapon such as mustard gas , then i would imagine most countries in the world have WMD. We digress though in your usual deflective style , which you as ever arent very good at.
You can defend blair til lthe cows come home , but the mans name is mud with the uk left and right , who hate him , and the uk public .We all know it. Outside of the few limp wristed blairite worshippers like you in your fantasy bubble.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 25, 2023 5:59:46 GMT
Its saved me from talking crap many times 🤣
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Post by thomas on Jul 25, 2023 6:02:09 GMT
When starmer fails to win the next general election , we can give zany and co three cheers for their service to the uk electorate in helping open eyes about that festering contradictory sore that is the new labour party.... Thomas, your record seems to have got stuck. Give it a nudge. Judgin from events recently regarding labour that we have discussed over the last few days on here , its the wooden starmers record i think that is not just stuck , but scratched to hell and refuses to play.
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Post by zanygame on Jul 25, 2023 6:06:30 GMT
It wouldn't take Machiavelli to out smart you Donald duck could do it. Saddam guilty of having WMD, he used the bloody stuff to kill 5,000 Kurds and god knows how many Iranians. Jeez its like training monkeys. lolz. i stand suitable crushed Niccolo.
If you are going to stretch the elastic of WMD , from something that could hit us in 45 minutes , to any sort of weapon such as mustard gas , then i would imagine most countries in the world have WMD. We digress though in your usual deflective style , which you as ever arent very good at.
You can defend blair til lthe cows come home , but the mans name is mud with the uk left and right , who hate him , and the uk public .We all know it. Outside of the few limp wristed blairite worshippers like you in your fantasy bubble.
Wriggle all you like. Sarin gas is considered a weapon of mass destruction. Where his missiles could reach has nothing to do with it. I am aware of public opinion of Blair, it would be far easier to follow your route, but I believe in the truth. However inconvenient.
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Post by thomas on Jul 25, 2023 6:23:16 GMT
lolz. i stand suitable crushed Niccolo.
If you are going to stretch the elastic of WMD , from something that could hit us in 45 minutes , to any sort of weapon such as mustard gas , then i would imagine most countries in the world have WMD. We digress though in your usual deflective style , which you as ever arent very good at.
You can defend blair til lthe cows come home , but the mans name is mud with the uk left and right , who hate him , and the uk public .We all know it. Outside of the few limp wristed blairite worshippers like you in your fantasy bubble.
Wriggle all you like. Sarin gas is considered a weapon of mass destruction. Where his missiles could reach has nothing to do with it. I am aware of public opinion of Blair, it would be far easier to follow your route, but I believe in the truth. However inconvenient. in what way could my reply be contrued as me wriggling?
Unlike you , im acknowledging your point about him having gas and nerve agents , while you wont acknowledge he never had weapons that could hit us ( according to blair ) in 45 minutes. That was the justification for the war , not the gassing or kurds.
Im also pointing out if justification for war was any sort of weapon that could be contrued as a WMD , then why only saddam ? Why didnt the worlds self appointed policemen invade every single country on that basis?
They didnt , not only because thjey couldnt , but because we both know you are talking out your rear end as normal.
I havent laughed so hard since Nigel farage got an apology from the bbc yesterday.
You dont know the meaning of the word truth.
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Post by sheepy on Jul 25, 2023 6:29:03 GMT
lolz. i stand suitable crushed Niccolo.
If you are going to stretch the elastic of WMD , from something that could hit us in 45 minutes , to any sort of weapon such as mustard gas , then i would imagine most countries in the world have WMD. We digress though in your usual deflective style , which you as ever arent very good at.
You can defend blair til lthe cows come home , but the mans name is mud with the uk left and right , who hate him , and the uk public .We all know it. Outside of the few limp wristed blairite worshippers like you in your fantasy bubble.
Wriggle all you like. Sarin gas is considered a weapon of mass destruction. Where his missiles could reach has nothing to do with it. I am aware of public opinion of Blair, it would be far easier to follow your route, but I believe in the truth. However inconvenient. So the truth was he didn't have anything in the weapon of mass destruction cupboard that could destroy the UK in 45 minutes and was a made up lie, glad we got to the bottom of that.
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Post by thomas on Jul 25, 2023 6:32:14 GMT
Wriggle all you like. Sarin gas is considered a weapon of mass destruction. Where his missiles could reach has nothing to do with it. I am aware of public opinion of Blair, it would be far easier to follow your route, but I believe in the truth. However inconvenient. So the truth was he didn't have anything in the weapon of mass destruction cupboard that could destroy the UK in 45 minutes and was a made up lie, glad we got to the bottom of that. i know sheepy. We all know it outside of the blairite bubble zany inhabits. Its the same trait in this thread as he exhibited in the farage thread. Here zany is convinced of blairs sanctity. Over in the farage thread , zany had farage done bang to rights and was drawing and quartering him , with all sorts of puerile excuses , and now on that subject too he has egg on his face.
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Post by thomas on Jul 25, 2023 6:56:00 GMT
Interesting article on the dead weight around new labours neck..............Iraq
BP extracted Iraqi oil worth £15bn after British invasion Despite UK ministers denying the war was about oil, the flagship British company reaped a bonanza upon its return to Iraq after the 2003 invasion, Declassified has found.
BP has pumped oil worth £15.4bn in Iraq since 2011 when it began production in the country for the first time in nearly four decades, new analysis shows.
The new information comes on the 20-year anniversary of the beginning of the invasion of Iraq, which was judged to be illegal by the UN. However, neither US president George W Bush nor British prime minister Tony Blair, the leaders who prosecuted the war, have been subjects of a criminal investigation.
The invasion began in March 2003 and unleashed a catastrophic humanitarian disaster with an estimated 655,000 Iraqis killed in the first three years of conflict, or 2.5% of the population.
It was widely denounced as a war for oil on the part of the US and UK: Iraq holds the world’s fifth largest proven oil reserves. Iraq had no connection to the September 11th terrorist attacks which had taken place 18 months before and initiated the so-called “War on Terror”
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 25, 2023 8:08:09 GMT
Wriggle all you like. Sarin gas is considered a weapon of mass destruction. Where his missiles could reach has nothing to do with it. I am aware of public opinion of Blair, it would be far easier to follow your route, but I believe in the truth. However inconvenient. So the truth was he didn't have anything in the weapon of mass destruction cupboard that could destroy the UK in 45 minutes and was a made up lie, glad we got to the bottom of that. According to zany because the inspectors never found any WMD that didn't mean he didn't have them, they were just well hidden.
I know the one place they never looked, and no one ever thinks of looking there .... under his mattress.
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