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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 24, 2023 6:57:17 GMT
Yep. And a virtue signalling war supporter.
It's just the usual left wing cognitive dissonance coming out.
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Post by thomas on Jul 24, 2023 7:07:02 GMT
Yep. And a virtue signalling war supporter. It's just the usual left wing cognitive dissonance coming out. When starmer fails to win the next general election , we can give zany and co three cheers for their service to the uk electorate in helping open eyes about that festering contradictory sore that is the new labour party.... |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 24, 2023 7:50:43 GMT
I cant believe that, 2 decades later, there are people who are still convinced there were WMD's in Iraq.. Blairs spin must have been much more powerful than I thought..  but there were. Not the ones everyone thought, and certainly nothing capabke of hitting us in britain in 45 minutes. But we DID sell them munitions now considered wmd I should know. My employer went bust because they sold them to Saddam to use against iran and after the white house decided he was no longer a nice person, he reneged on the deal. And Ferranti International Signal went under. The invoices are on a mainframe owned by Lloyds Bank under the account managed by the government for their export credit guarantee department. Along with a few others of amusement. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 24, 2023 7:52:23 GMT
...In the real world though , if you look at this thread , he is simultaneously arguing for example at the top of this page blair is innocent until proven guilty , while arguin that saddam is guilty of having WMD until proven innocent. And that we should all listen to Hans Blix who spent years finding nothing and is therefore either an establishment shill or an incompetent who couldn't find his arse with both hands. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2023 8:03:34 GMT
...In the real world though , if you look at this thread , he is simultaneously arguing for example at the top of this page blair is innocent until proven guilty , while arguin that saddam is guilty of having WMD until proven innocent. And that we should all listen to Hans Blix who spent years finding nothing and is therefore either an establishment shill or an incompetent who couldn't find his arse with both hands. If Zany mentions Hans Blix one more time I'm blocking him. |
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Post by thomas on Jul 24, 2023 8:07:01 GMT
I cant believe that, 2 decades later, there are people who are still convinced there were WMD's in Iraq.. Blairs spin must have been much more powerful than I thought.. but there were. Not the ones everyone thought, and certainly nothing capabke of hitting us in britain in 45 minutes. But we DID sell them munitions now considered wmd I should know. My employer went bust because they sold them to Saddam to use against iran and after the white house decided he was no longer a nice person, he reneged on the deal. And Ferranti International Signal went under. The invoices are on a mainframe owned by Lloyds Bank under the account managed by the government for their export credit guarantee department. Along with a few others of amusement. John , we are scraping the bottom of the barrell here. There wasnt WMD that could hit the uk in 45 minutes. We all know saddam had weapons and explosives , iraq had been involved in a war with iran for years. Stretching the term 45 minute WMD to include anything and everything in iraq that could explode or maim including iraqi joke shop bangers is laughable.
The basic premise the new labour government and that clown blair took the uk to war over was never proved or justified , so im 100 % behind what pacifico and many others have said. Lets not try and give new labour a shred of minute credibility by using the thread as a platform to tell us what your employer did or didnt do please.
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Post by thomas on Jul 24, 2023 8:08:04 GMT
And that we should all listen to Hans Blix who spent years finding nothing and is therefore either an establishment shill or an incompetent who couldn't find his arse with both hands. If Zany mentions Hans Blix one more time I'm blocking him. Dont block him fairsociety. Encourage him to blow new labours trumpet. Everytime zany opens his mouth , starmer loses another voter. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 24, 2023 8:15:09 GMT
If Zany mentions Hans Blix one more time I'm blocking him. Dont block him fairsociety. Encourage him to blow new labours trumpet. Everytime zany opens his mouth , starmer loses another voter. true |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 24, 2023 12:34:28 GMT
The Chinese social credit system was not what you think it was. It was a scheme which was introduced by the central committee but it was outlined in a very general way with a fair bit of spin. The plan was to implement it via local authorities so each local authority was charged with the role of introducing their own local version of it, but none of the local authorities had a clear idea what the central committee actually meant by it so they were left to improvise. Each authority devised their own schemes and most were good and for rewarding people for social care of elderly and the like, but some schemes had a punitive element. The truth was in these cases they would reappoint the role of the sanctions against non-payment of court fines and the like under the management of the social credit system, rolling various duties of law and order into one system. This was not particularly successful so they have rolled it back and sorted out the problems and have different systems in place now.This has absolutely nothing to do with Farage and his bank.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 24, 2023 13:12:40 GMT
The Chinese social credit system is used to control individuals .
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Post by zanygame on Jul 24, 2023 20:41:29 GMT
It wouldn't take Machiavelli to out smart you Donald duck could do it.
Saddam guilty of having WMD, he used the bloody stuff to kill 5,000 Kurds and god knows how many Iranians.
Jeez its like training monkeys.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 24, 2023 21:25:48 GMT
The Chinese social credit system is used to control individuals . It is the reason for any government. |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 24, 2023 21:29:20 GMT
The Chinese social credit system is used to control individuals . It is the reason for any government. So every government is the same or you can’t differentiate ? |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jul 24, 2023 21:58:52 GMT
It is the reason for any government. So every government is the same or you can’t differentiate ? That's not what I said. Controlling people can be a good and honourable thing. Say you ran a firm and your employees had shares in it and the control of the people had made them a them a mint. You know, like the ace football manager kind of guy.
Our problem in this country is the ultra dense electorate.
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Post by Bentley on Jul 24, 2023 22:27:40 GMT
So every government is the same or you can’t differentiate ? That's not what I said. Controlling people can be a good and honourable thing. Say you ran a firm and your employees had shares in it and the control of the people had made them a them a mint. You know, like the ace football manager kind of guy.
Our problem in this country is the ultra dense electorate.
What are you on about ? The Chinese social credit system is a cynical way to cancel individuals that do not tow the CCP line and reward that ones that do. Its a system of direct social control. Am A Chinese MMA fighter has been effectively cancelled. He can’t travel and he can’t work . Why? Because he exposed the bullshit state supported’ Chinese martial arts ‘ by defeating the ‘ masters ‘ easily . If you dont toady to the CCP you are cancelled. That isn’t a good and honourable thing . |
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