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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 14:01:28 GMT
Won't you look a bit funny without a nose? I wonder what your fellow highly principled Corbynites think about you being in bed with the Blair-Starmer. You see what you want to see not what is actually there.😔 Are we talking about your nose? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 14:31:40 GMT
You see what you want to see not what is actually there.😔 Are we talking about your nose? Confrontational Reconstructed Entomological Terminal Idiosyncrasy Nincompoop. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 14:44:16 GMT
Because Labour would never do that now, would they? Now I realise that you're a tad doolally, but some of us can remember Liam Byrne's 2010 note to his successor: "There's no money left"
And I wouldn't put it past the Tories to do the same.
So you are saying Labour deliberately spent all the money to spite the Tories? You are more deranged than I thought you were. I don't see a problem with his post. It backs up what he's saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 14:44:37 GMT
Are we talking about your nose? Confrontational Reconstructed Entomological Terminal Idiosyncrasy Nincompoop. Well, we all have our problems. |
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Post by patman post on Jul 19, 2023 15:20:23 GMT
Are we talking about your nose? Confrontational Reconstructed Entomological Terminal Idiosyncrasy Nincompoop. As far as complicated ideas go I have trouble with Corrugated Iron… |
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Post by patman post on Jul 19, 2023 15:28:42 GMT
Your clearly biased opinions don't carry much weight. But it's true, the more Starmer says the more obvious it becomes that a centrist Labour government will be much the same as a centrist Tory government. Starmer is desperate to rid Labour of the reputation of being an economy wrecking high borrowing party, and that will massively reduce his ability to announce big spending plans. Just yesterday Harman was at pains to point out that Starmer backtracked on his £28 billion a year 'green revolution' because he cant make spending promises that cant be funded. Maybe the electorate won’t mind more centrism if it’s separated from the blatant cronyism and downright inability displayed by most of the current crop of Tories… |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2023 15:58:37 GMT
So you are saying Labour deliberately spent all the money to spite the Tories? Well that's what they implied, although I suspect that it was just the usual Labour fiscal incompetence. You are more deranged than I thought you were. I never thought you were anything else. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jul 19, 2023 15:59:03 GMT
Possibly, but they could shoot themselves in the foot if disastrous Starmer flops at the next GE. Yes, the downside would be winning. they have form for that Anyone old enough and fortunate enough to have watched the episode of spitting image the weekend after john major’s 1992 election win knows what i mean Note to the Baron: finding and then watching it on youtube doesn’t count, like the world cup some tv spectacles are only valid at time of transmission, and that show’s opening nearly caused me to piss myself and die laughing at the same time |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2023 16:01:55 GMT
So you are saying Labour deliberately spent all the money to spite the Tories? You are more deranged than I thought you were. I don't see a problem with his post. It backs up what he's saying. Indeed.
But it seems that even quoting their own spokesman doesn't count in lefty la-la-land.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 16:45:47 GMT
I'm looking forward to waking up on Friday morning so that we can gauge the depths of the Tory demise.
I doubt they will win a seat and some sort of bad records for the party will probably be broken.
They still won't buck up, though, they are past the point of no return. They haven't got a scooby of a new idea in their cabinet and they just hang on to power because they can. Any government with any principles would have resigned by now.
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Post by Orac on Jul 19, 2023 17:02:53 GMT
It strikes me that if the Tories really are anticipating electoral wipe-out then they could opt to stymie any incoming Labour government. All that's required is to up spending commitments to the point that there's nothing left over. The recent public sector pay rises might even be the start. Not a bad strategy. This has been standard Labour policy for decades Spending splurges that either increase popularity or make any following administration's job tougher if they don't. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 17:08:52 GMT
It strikes me that if the Tories really are anticipating electoral wipe-out then they could opt to stymie any incoming Labour government. All that's required is to up spending commitments to the point that there's nothing left over. The recent public sector pay rises might even be the start. Not a bad strategy. It worries me when someone suggests a totally idiotic 'plan' in the case that the the Tories lose. For someone that attacks Labour on anything to suggest that the Tories 'knobble' an incoming 'Labour government is the talk of an idiot. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is the action of a fool. I suppose it would prove something which many of us suspect anyway - that many in The Conservative Party would put party, and politics before country. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2023 17:36:03 GMT
It worries me when someone suggests a totally idiotic 'plan' in the case that the the Tories lose. For someone that attacks Labour on anything to suggest that the Tories 'knobble' an incoming 'Labour government is the talk of an idiot. Cutting off your nose to spite your face is the action of a fool. I suppose it would prove something which many of us suspect anyway - that many in The Conservative Party would put party, and politics before country. As Labour have done many, many times before.
Indeed, so often that it may even be considered their default position.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 17:54:03 GMT
When it comes to putting ones self, and the party before country, no better example than that of Boris Johnson, HIS personal enjoyment and HIS partying had to come before anything, even before the rules he made.
And what better example could there be of a Tory with his snout in the trough, than the recently resigned MP for Selby & Ainsty, who took the huff, and resigned all because he couldnt get his promised knighthood from Boris, he threw a tantrum, and come Friday morning the new MP for Selby will probably be a Labour one.
Look at the growing list of Tory MPs queuing up at the Exit Door to get out of Parliament, no honour, no loyalty, only thinking of themselves.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Jul 19, 2023 18:00:06 GMT
Sir Keir will have an easy ride then, Fiddler. I'm glad we agree: It's all on him now.
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