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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2023 9:53:42 GMT
Tony Blair
Worth £70 million that we know of. Private health care. Massive property empire. He got to power by pretending to put a stop to people like that ^^ LOL |
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Post by Bentley on Jul 8, 2023 9:58:35 GMT
The more wealthy a leftie gets , the farther away they get from their socialist convictions .
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2023 10:09:11 GMT
The more wealthy a leftie gets , the farther away they get from their socialist convictions . Just like the other champagne hypocrite socialist 'Sir' Keir Starmer.
Sir has been used as a respectful way to address a man of superior social status or military rank.
the next worse thing to a socialist is a champagne socialist. ^^ LOL
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 8, 2023 11:01:46 GMT
Monetary terms or REAL TERMS ? Three factors have changed the economic landscape (1) inflation (2) year on year growth (compounded) (3) population increase. There is absolutely no way that the Tories since coming to power have spent more money in REAL TERMS, than under Tony Blair. But they may have spent more in numbers - A Mini Cooper new in 1965 was around £500.00, a new Mini today would set you back 40 times that price. percentage of GDP Edit - just checked and spending under the Tories has been higher than under Tony Blair in Real Terms as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2023 11:02:22 GMT
Tony Blair
Worth £70 million that we know of. Private health care. Massive property empire. He got to power by pretending to put a stop to people like that ^^ LOL No he didn't He got into power to repair the damage to the NHS, to introduce a National Minimum Wage, to create SureStart, to make going out to work pay, to take people out of poverty, to introduce Pensin Tax Credits, to introduce the Winter Fuel Allowance, to give all pensioners free bus travel. He made society more equal by giving equal rights to gay people, he gave the Bank Of England its independence from politicians. The economy did very well, we had steady growth, low unemployment, low interest rates, they were good times, Cool Britannia. I dont particularly care about a politicians wealth, but more about the person, and who they are, what they believe, also their background and what they associate with. Blair originates from humble beginings, Blairs father was adopted by a Clydeside shipyard worker because he was born illegitimate to two entertainers. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 8, 2023 11:13:54 GMT
Well spending has obviously spiraled - for the past 13 years the government has spent more than any year of the Tony Blair administration except one. And I never heard anyone criticising New Labour for imposing austerity.  As to you choice of sources - I would be shocked, shocked I tell ya, to see a thinktank that was set up specifically to lobby for higher public spending not claiming that public spending was too low.... Spending has reduced in real terms in pretty much every pubic body. So where has all the borrowing gone? Much of it in higher welfare handouts. This mornings paper highlighted that if you get signed off by your Doctor for 'Anxiety' you are in line for a free £40,000 car. They also get insurance for up to three drivers and breakdown, servicing and MOT cover. Government profligacy knows no bounds.. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2023 11:19:58 GMT
Tony Blair
Worth £70 million that we know of. Private health care. Massive property empire. He got to power by pretending to put a stop to people like that ^^ LOL He got into power to repair the damage to the NHS, to introduce a National Minimum Wage, to create SureStart, to make going out to work pay, to take people out of poverty, to introduce Pensin Tax Credits, to introduce the Winter Fuel Allowance, to give all pensioners free bus travel. He made society more equal by giving equal rights to gay people, he gave the Bank Of England its independence from politicians. The economy did very well, we had steady growth, low unemployment, low interest rates, they were good times, Cool Britannia. I dont particularly care about a politicians wealth, but more about the person, and who they are, what they believe, also their background and what they associate with. Blair originates from humble beginings, Blairs father was adopted by a Clydeside shipyard worker because he was born illegitimate to two entertainers. Oh yes he did.
"I'm not one of the super-rich, says Tony Blair despite being worth £20m a year and owningsix homes.
Hate to burst your delusional bubble sid, but Tony Blair is 'super-rich', and a super hypocrite.
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Post by Handyman on Jul 8, 2023 11:43:04 GMT
No he didn'tHe got into power to repair the damage to the NHS, to introduce a National Minimum Wage, to create SureStart, to make going out to work pay, to take people out of poverty, to introduce Pensin Tax Credits, to introduce the Winter Fuel Allowance, to give all pensioners free bus travel. He made society more equal by giving equal rights to gay people, he gave the Bank Of England its independence from politicians. The economy did very well, we had steady growth, low unemployment, low interest rates, they were good times, Cool Britannia. I dont particularly care about a politicians wealth, but more about the person, and who they are, what they believe, also their background and what they associate with. Blair originates from humble beginings, Blairs father was adopted by a Clydeside shipyard worker because he was born illegitimate to two entertainers. Oh yes he did.
"I'm not one of the super-rich, says Tony Blair despite being worth £20m a year and owningsix homes.
Hate to burst your delusional bubble sid, but Tony Blair is 'super-rich', and a super hypocrite.
And a War Monger he lied to Parliament and the Nation, it was all going tits up so he legged it and past the poisoned chalice to Gormless Gordon Brown, whose only claim to fame was making our tax laws even more complicated |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2023 11:52:55 GMT
Why does it matter if Tony Blair owns one home or six homes, or whether he is rich or poor ?
Its if, and how, he actually made a difference to anyones lives that matters
For the pensioner on basic state pension, he made an enormous difference, that basic pensioner got an uplift in income, and they got a Winter Fuel Allowance, and they got free bus travel.
What your bringing into question is irrelevant
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Post by jonksy on Jul 8, 2023 11:55:33 GMT
Why does it matter if Tony Blair owns one home or six homes, or whether he is rich or poor ? Its if, and how, he actually made a difference to anyones lives that matters For the pensioner on basic state pension, he made an enormous difference, that basic pensioner got an uplift in income, and they got a Winter Fuel Allowance, and they got free bus travel. What your bringing into question is irrelevant It does to the poor bastards who paid for them fiddles....Like the UK taxpayers for example. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jul 8, 2023 12:05:55 GMT
Why does it matter if Tony Blair owns one home or six homes, or whether he is rich or poor ? Its if, and how, he actually made a difference to anyones lives that mattersFor the pensioner on basic state pension, he made an enormous difference, that basic pensioner got an uplift in income, and they got a Winter Fuel Allowance, and they got free bus travel. What your bringing into question is irrelevant Oh he fuckin sure did make a difference to people's lives.
He fucked up the NHS, while he has the luxury of private health care, he gave GPs contracts that were worth over £80,000 a year with a option to opt out of home visits and out of hours, he opened the flood gates to migrants FOM, and you can see the devastation on poorer areas and the impact on housing and tax payers.
YES he sure did make a difference in people's lives... he fucked us all over.
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Post by Handyman on Jul 8, 2023 12:10:53 GMT
Why does it matter if Tony Blair owns one home or six homes, or whether he is rich or poor ? Its if, and how, he actually made a difference to anyones lives that matters For the pensioner on basic state pension, he made an enormous difference, that basic pensioner got an uplift in income, and they got a Winter Fuel Allowance, and they got free bus travel. What your bringing into question is irrelevant If he had a been a Tory PM, I think you be posting differently a rich Tory Bastard |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2023 12:20:00 GMT
The other night both ITN and SKY News showed the same chart which tracked patient satisfaction rates in our NHS
The chart showed that period 2000 to 2010, patient satisfaction rose, and then 2010 to 2020 in fell sharply, and here you are in a political forum telling posters that (quote) "He fucked up the NHS", really quite laughable.
Outcomes within the NHS improved, waiting lists fell, waiting times fell, staff morale rose.
Conditions and terms for doctors and nurses improved, and YES our GPs were given better contracts, because GPs were leaving in their droves, either for much better pay and conditions abroad, or into private medicine or taking early retirement.
Freedom Of Movement is something I always agreed to and still do - BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY LABOUR GOVERNMENT, it was signed, sealed and delivered firstly by Sir Edward Heath who took us into Europe and signed The Treaty Of Rome, it was then finally given the green light by John Major who agreed to the terms of The Maastricht Treaty.
Freedom Of Movement came in stages - every stage was agreed to and signed off by a Tory Prime Minister
I wish people would stop telling lies and making it up as you go along
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Post by jonksy on Jul 8, 2023 12:23:19 GMT
The other night both ITN and SKY News showed the same chart which tracked patient satisfaction rates in our NHS The chart showed that period 2000 to 2010, patient satisfaction rose, and then 2010 to 2020 in fell sharply, and here you are in a political forum telling posters that (quote) "He fucked up the NHS", really quite laughable. Outcomes within the NHS improved, waiting lists fell, waiting times fell, staff morale rose. Conditions and terms for doctors and nurses improved, and YES our GPs were given better contracts, because GPs were leaving in their droves, either for much better pay and conditions abroad, or into private medicine or taking early retirement. Freedom Of Movement is something I always agreed to and still do - BUT IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY LABOUR GOVERNMENT, it was signed, sealed and delivered firstly by Sir Edward Heath who took us into Europe and signed The Treaty Of Rome, it was then finally given the green light by John Major who agreed to the terms of The Maastricht Treaty. Freedom Of Movement came in stages - every stage was agreed to and signed off by a Tory Prime Minister I wish people would stop telling lies and making it up as you go along Then why are doing exactly that fiddles? |
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Post by Pacifico on Jul 8, 2023 17:02:23 GMT
Freedom Of Movement came in stages - every stage was agreed to and signed off by a Tory Prime Minister Yes - but at those times not much FoM was actually going on. It wasn't until Blair threw open the doors to the new accession states whilst other countries in the EU kept theirs closed that mass immigration really took off in the UK. |
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