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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 28, 2023 11:56:21 GMT
So if they move on from the EU, under your plan, they can be: Robbed, Raped, sold into slavery, starved, beaten, killed, disfigured with impunity from the law. What evidence do you have for your claim "EVERY ONE of those bastards in a rubber boat is trying to play the system", because when they are processed 80+% of them are successful, you need to show it to the Tories. No, i did not say "move on from the EU. I said move on one inch from the spot they are fingerprinted and DNA Profiled. AND I ALSO said (but you don't want to hear that do you) that we - and every other truly civilised state in the godforsaken shitpile that is now the EU signed up long, long before the EEC was thought of to a legal framework administered by the then league of nations to decently handle genuine cases of persons fleeing conflict or persecution. Nowhere in those treaties was it said "come on in help yourself to the benefits, join the black economy and undercut the wage earning of the locals" but again the left don't give a flying one about that do they. But what was offered was protection from persecution to those genuinely in flight from it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 13:12:08 GMT
So if they move on from the EU, under your plan, they can be: Robbed, Raped, sold into slavery, starved, beaten, killed, disfigured with impunity from the law. What evidence do you have for your claim "EVERY ONE of those bastards in a rubber boat is trying to play the system", because when they are processed 80+% of them are successful, you need to show it to the Tories. No, i did not say "move on from the EU. I said move on one inch from the spot they are fingerprinted and DNA Profiled. AND I ALSO said (but you don't want to hear that do you) that we - and every other truly civilised state in the godforsaken shitpile that is now the EU signed up long, long before the EEC was thought of to a legal framework administered by the then league of nations to decently handle genuine cases of persons fleeing conflict or persecution. Nowhere in those treaties was it said "come on in help yourself to the benefits, join the black economy and undercut the wage earning of the locals" but again the left don't give a flying one about that do they. But what was offered was protection from persecution to those genuinely in flight from it.
Don't talk daft how can they not move one inch? "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, but if they move on from there then they have no rights at all.
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 28, 2023 15:14:41 GMT
No, i did not say "move on from the EU. I said move on one inch from the spot they are fingerprinted and DNA Profiled. AND I ALSO said (but you don't want to hear that do you) that we - and every other truly civilised state in the godforsaken shitpile that is now the EU signed up long, long before the EEC was thought of to a legal framework administered by the then league of nations to decently handle genuine cases of persons fleeing conflict or persecution. Nowhere in those treaties was it said "come on in help yourself to the benefits, join the black economy and undercut the wage earning of the locals" but again the left don't give a flying one about that do they. But what was offered was protection from persecution to those genuinely in flight from it.
Don't talk daft how can they not move one inch? "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, but if they move on from there then they have no rights at all.
Why lie.well you are the one who is twisting what i said. I stand by what i said Which is that they should be biometrically processed at the point they are first discovered (for the genuine asylum seeker or refugee that will be the first authority figure they identify themselves to, for the cheating scum this will be when their efforts to evade detection fail) Once their details are registered they should be told their only option is to apply for processing as a war refugee or a seeker of political asylum in the place they now stand, snd that any attempt to move on to seek such protection elsewhere will fail because they are recorded as having arrived and been given the offer of protection by the eu superstate you are so fond to kiss the arse of the federalists who run it. Their options then are take it, go back, or be regarded as a criminal. At this point i think the GENUINE refugee or asylum seeker will quickly realise their application in that country, IF successful, will give them the right of abode in any schengen area member and the right to apply as any other EU state’s citizens can, to go elsewhere. I’m really struggling to see what possible motive a person claiming fear of death or worse in the place they fled would have for NOT taking up that offer. Unless of course their claim is just fucking bogus. Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed to realise the sensible section of the population think otherwise but perhaps we should dump you with all of them on Anglesey, along with the twats who want to hand them free money and free lawyers, blow the Menai Bridges and leave you to die of thirst as they drink all the water. It would i admit be fun watching them try to cross the menai straits like they did the english channel. I’d estimate a 98% kill rate in that current …. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 17:30:55 GMT
Don't talk daft how can they not move one inch? "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, but if they move on from there then they have no rights at all.
Why lie.well you are the one who is twisting what i said. I stand by what i said Which is that they should be biometrically processed at the point they are first discovered (for the genuine asylum seeker or refugee that will be the first authority figure they identify themselves to, for the cheating scum this will be when their efforts to evade detection fail) Once their details are registered they should be told their only option is to apply for processing as a war refugee or a seeker of political asylum in the place they now stand, snd that any attempt to move on to seek such protection elsewhere will fail because they are recorded as having arrived and been given the offer of protection by the eu superstate you are so fond to kiss the arse of the federalists who run it. Their options then are take it, go back, or be regarded as a criminal. At this point i think the GENUINE refugee or asylum seeker will quickly realise their application in that country, IF successful, will give them the right of abode in any schengen area member and the right to apply as any other EU state’s citizens can, to go elsewhere. I’m really struggling to see what possible motive a person claiming fear of death or worse in the place they fled would have for NOT taking up that offer. Unless of course their claim is just fucking bogus. Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed to realise the sensible section of the population think otherwise but perhaps we should dump you with all of them on Anglesey, along with the twats who want to hand them free money and free lawyers, blow the Menai Bridges and leave you to die of thirst as they drink all the water. It would i admit be fun watching them try to cross the menai straits like they did the english channel. I’d estimate a 98% kill rate in that current …. How can I twist "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, b ut if they move on from there then they have no rights at all".The human rights act is quite plain in it's statement that asylum seekers do not have to stay in the first 'safe country' they arrive in, EU countries have enough of a problem dealing with asylum seekers that want to stay there. "Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed" this is just a raving line of lies and shows you up for what you undoubtably are. No one knows why they would want to come to the UK but there are a myriad of reasons possible but none of that matters to the right because they believe that asylum seekers are somehow subhuman as your rant clearly shows that you do. |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 28, 2023 17:35:09 GMT
well you are the one who is twisting what i said. I stand by what i said Which is that they should be biometrically processed at the point they are first discovered (for the genuine asylum seeker or refugee that will be the first authority figure they identify themselves to, for the cheating scum this will be when their efforts to evade detection fail) Once their details are registered they should be told their only option is to apply for processing as a war refugee or a seeker of political asylum in the place they now stand, snd that any attempt to move on to seek such protection elsewhere will fail because they are recorded as having arrived and been given the offer of protection by the eu superstate you are so fond to kiss the arse of the federalists who run it. Their options then are take it, go back, or be regarded as a criminal. At this point i think the GENUINE refugee or asylum seeker will quickly realise their application in that country, IF successful, will give them the right of abode in any schengen area member and the right to apply as any other EU state’s citizens can, to go elsewhere. I’m really struggling to see what possible motive a person claiming fear of death or worse in the place they fled would have for NOT taking up that offer. Unless of course their claim is just fucking bogus. Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed to realise the sensible section of the population think otherwise but perhaps we should dump you with all of them on Anglesey, along with the twats who want to hand them free money and free lawyers, blow the Menai Bridges and leave you to die of thirst as they drink all the water. It would i admit be fun watching them try to cross the menai straits like they did the english channel. I’d estimate a 98% kill rate in that current …. How can I twist "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, b ut if they move on from there then they have no rights at all".The human rights act is quite plain in it's statement that asylum seekers do not have to stay in the first 'safe country' they arrive in, EU countries have enough of a problem dealing with asylum seekers that want to stay there. "Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed" this is just a raving line of lies and shows you up for what you undoubtably are. No one knows why they would want to come to the UK but there are a myriad of reasons possible but none of that matters to the right because they believe that asylum seekers are somehow subhuman as your rant clearly shows that you do. Ah yes rights, but did they think they were due rights when they cheated and entered illegally, knowing full well they would eventually overload the system and have a block immunity? |
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Post by johnofgwent on Jun 28, 2023 17:38:07 GMT
well you are the one who is twisting what i said. I stand by what i said Which is that they should be biometrically processed at the point they are first discovered (for the genuine asylum seeker or refugee that will be the first authority figure they identify themselves to, for the cheating scum this will be when their efforts to evade detection fail) Once their details are registered they should be told their only option is to apply for processing as a war refugee or a seeker of political asylum in the place they now stand, snd that any attempt to move on to seek such protection elsewhere will fail because they are recorded as having arrived and been given the offer of protection by the eu superstate you are so fond to kiss the arse of the federalists who run it. Their options then are take it, go back, or be regarded as a criminal. At this point i think the GENUINE refugee or asylum seeker will quickly realise their application in that country, IF successful, will give them the right of abode in any schengen area member and the right to apply as any other EU state’s citizens can, to go elsewhere. I’m really struggling to see what possible motive a person claiming fear of death or worse in the place they fled would have for NOT taking up that offer. Unless of course their claim is just fucking bogus. Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed to realise the sensible section of the population think otherwise but perhaps we should dump you with all of them on Anglesey, along with the twats who want to hand them free money and free lawyers, blow the Menai Bridges and leave you to die of thirst as they drink all the water. It would i admit be fun watching them try to cross the menai straits like they did the english channel. I’d estimate a 98% kill rate in that current …. How can I twist "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, b ut if they move on from there then they have no rights at all".The human rights act is quite plain in it's statement that asylum seekers do not have to stay in the first 'safe country' they arrive in, EU countries have enough of a problem dealing with asylum seekers that want to stay there. "Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed" this is just a raving line of lies and shows you up for what you undoubtably are. No one knows why they would want to come to the UK but there are a myriad of reasons possible but none of that matters to the right because they believe that asylum seekers are somehow subhuman as your rant clearly shows that you do. for the last fucking time they ate not fucking asylum seekers they are coming here for the money |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2023 17:39:34 GMT
How can I twist "I think they should be fingerprinted and DNA profiled at the point they are found on EU soil and told very firmly at that point they have the right to apply for asylum to the state in which they now stand, b ut if they move on from there then they have no rights at all".The human rights act is quite plain in it's statement that asylum seekers do not have to stay in the first 'safe country' they arrive in, EU countries have enough of a problem dealing with asylum seekers that want to stay there. "Now i understand it is hard for the left leaning twats who think every piece of shit trying to sneak into the UK should be welcomed" this is just a raving line of lies and shows you up for what you undoubtably are. No one knows why they would want to come to the UK but there are a myriad of reasons possible but none of that matters to the right because they believe that asylum seekers are somehow subhuman as your rant clearly shows that you do. Ah yes rights, but did they think they were due rights when they cheated and entered illegally, knowing full well they would eventually overload the system and have a block immunity? I am sure that was the last thing on their minds. Are you really saying that you have no empathy for people fleeing for their lives? |
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Post by sheepy on Jun 28, 2023 17:41:30 GMT
Ah yes rights, but did they think they were due rights when they cheated and entered illegally, knowing full well they would eventually overload the system and have a block immunity? I am sure that was the last thing on their minds. Are you really saying that you have no empathy for people fleeing for their lives? That wasn't what I asked how are you sure? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 29, 2023 7:13:10 GMT
Pillock. The French refuse to allow 'refugee' boats from Africa to land on their mediterranean coast, which is why the Italians are so pissed of with the French. Yet the French look the other way when it comes to the Channel coast, double standards? Hypocrisy? You choose. I think we all know that if hundreds of thousands of illegals from England were landing on French beaches, the French and the EU would be going absolutely mental. They would demand the ECtHR fined the UK £billions, and insist the UN issued sanctions against the UK for not securing it's borders, and you can bet every single illegal would be deported back to England. Yes indeed, if the roles as you say were reversed, it would be a very different matter. Not a very good insult, you are well behind some on this board. "The French government on Thursday suspended a deal to take 3,500 asylum-seekers currently in Italy, as Paris criticized the newly appointed right-wing Italian government of Prime Minister Georgia Meloni for not accepting passengers from the Ocean Viking migrant rescue ship". you forget the detail. How do we know that, the French have 'hundreds of thousands', another bit of an exaggeration on your part, of asylum seekers crossing their borders every day, most claim asylum in France and a few come to England and no, every single immigrant would not be sent back to England they would be processed according to the regulations. Your last sentence says it all. Your argument has more holes in it than half a tonne of Swiss cheese. The entire illegal immigrant fiasco is the fault of the EU. The EU opened job centres in Africa and in 2015 as hundreds of thousands of illegals flooded into Europe Merkel famously announced 'Wir Schaffen das' (we can manage). Only to apologise the following year when the EU declared a migrant crisis, of their own making, in Europe. When it comes to mass immigration the EU have shown themselves to be utterly incompetent. They invited all comers to the EU, then declared a migrant crisis. But it doesn't matter, the unelected commissioners and presidents cant be voted out. Like Merkel they will quietly retire on gold plated tax payer funded pensions to a life of pampered luxury which will obviously be well away from any immigrants of that you can be sure. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 29, 2023 7:16:39 GMT
Perhaps illegals shouldn't have access to legal aid provided by left wing socialist lawyers who are funded through taxation by hard working people who are struggling to make ends meet. Hey it's a thought. Any more rights you would like to strip from them? Illegals should have no rights. Anyone who enters this country illegally is a criminal and should be treated accordingly. |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 29, 2023 7:26:16 GMT
Any more rights you would like to strip from them? Illegals should have no rights. Anyone who enters this country illegally is a criminal and should be treated accordingly. According to the usuals mate they should be given homes, money and help whilst our own homeless have to make do with a tent in the local park. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Jun 29, 2023 7:28:47 GMT
Illegals should have no rights. Anyone who enters this country illegally is a criminal and should be treated accordingly. According to the usuals mate they should be given homes, money and help whilst our own homeless have to make do with a tent in the local park. And this is under a Tory government, can you imagine what it's going to be like with a Labour government, headed by a left wing socialist lawyer. God help us. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2023 9:13:23 GMT
Illegals should have no rights. Anyone who enters this country illegally is a criminal and should be treated accordingly. According to the usuals mate they should be given homes, money and help whilst our own homeless have to make do with a tent in the local park. Show me on person that has said "they should be given homes, money and help whilst our own homeless have to make do with a tent in the local park". |
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Post by jonksy on Jun 29, 2023 9:32:20 GMT
According to the usuals mate they should be given homes, money and help whilst our own homeless have to make do with a tent in the local park. Show me on person that has said "they should be given homes, money and help whilst our own homeless have to make do with a tent in the local park". Have you got a mirror wonky? |
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Post by Montegriffo on Jun 29, 2023 9:37:49 GMT
Unlawful.
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